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PhatRick
03-28-2005, 07:59 AM
MMAFighting.net's Top Ten Fighter Rankings (Version 5.0)
Compiled by Robbypark

Our top ten fighter rankings are released three times a year. Votes were submitted by March 8th.

Heavyweight - Emelianenko Fedor
1. Fedor Emelianenko- 320 points, 25 1st Place Votes
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira- 254 points, 1 1st Place Vote
3. Mirko Cro Cop- 238 points, 1 1st Place Vote
4. Andrei Arlovski- 167 points
5. Sergei Kharitonov- 140 points
6. Frank Mir- 129 points
7. Josh Barnett- 84 points
8. Kazuyuki Fujita- 61 points
9. Heath Herring- 53 points
10. Aleksander Emelianenko- 34 points

Others Receiving Votes= Mark Hunt- 30 points, Pedro Rizzo- 14 points, Tim Sylvia- 11 points, Paul Buentello- 7 points, Ken Shamrock- 6 points, Mark Coleman- 5 points, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka- 4 points, Naoya Ogawa- 4 points, Ron Waterman- 2 points, Ricco Rodriguez- 2 points, Bob Sapp- 1 point

Light Heavyweight - Wanderlei Silva
1. Wanderlei Silva- 312 points, 21 1st Place Votes
2. Randy Couture- 279 points, 6 1st Place Votes
3. Quinton Jackson- 212 points
4. Chuck Liddell- 167 points
5. Ricardo Arona- 141 points
6. Tito Ortiz- 110 points
7. Dan Henderson- 92 points
8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira- 58 points
9. Yuki Kondo- 51 points
10. Vitor Belfort- 44 points

Others Receiving Votes= Renato Sobral- 31 points, Mauricio Shogun- 24 points, Hidehiko Yoshida- 18 points, Igor Vovchanchyn- 8 points, Kevin Randleman- 3 points, Murilo Ninja Rua- 2 points

*note- Kazushi Sakuraba received 14 points for the LHW division

Middleweight - Evan Tanner
1. Evan Tanner- 251 points, 14 1st Place Votes
2. Ryo Chonan- 214 points, 5 1st Place Votes
3. Jeremy Horn- 189 points, 4 1st Place Votes
4. Rich Franklin- 179 points, 1 1st Place Vote
5. Matt Lindland- 158 points, 1 1st Place Vote
6. Anderson Silva- 156 points
7. Kazushi Sakuraba- 137 points, 2 1st Place Votes
8. David Terrell- 66 points
9. Nathan Marquardt- 57 points
10. Ricardo Almeida- 41 points

Others Receving Votes= Joe Riggs- 37 points, Murilo Bustamante- 35 points, David Loiseau- 15 points, Lee Murray- 14 points, Joe Doerksen- 9 points, Denis Kang- 6 points, Trevor Prangley- 6 points, Paulo Filho- 5 points, Rodrigo Gracie- 5 points, Ivan Salaverry- 4 points, Carlos Newton- 4 points, Masanori Suda- 4 points, Robbie Lawler- 4 points, Jose Pele- 4 points, Crosley Gracie- 3 points, Falaniko Vitale- 3 points, Jorge Rivera- 3 points, Amar Suloev- 3 points, Andrei Semenov- 3 points, Kiyoshi Tamura- 1 point

*note= Kazuhiro Nakamura recieved 12 points for the MW Division

Welterweight - BJ Penn
1. BJ Penn- 318 points, 24 1st Place Votes
2. Matt Hughes- 276 points, 3 1st Place Votes
3. Frank Trigg- 205 points
4. Sean Sherk- 200 points
5. Georges St. Pierre- 168 points
6. Karo Parisyan- 148 points
7. Renato Verissimo- 103 points
8. Akira Kikuchi- 88 points
9. Nick Diaz- 61 points
10. Jutaro Nakao- 41 points

Others Receiving Votes= Jason Black- 22 points, Chris Lytle- 17 points, Hayato Sakurai- 8 points, Dennis Hallman- 8 points, Shonie Carter- 1 point, Kuniyoshi Hironaka- 1 point, Daiju Takase- 1 point

*note= Crosley Gracie received 11 points for the WW division, Frank Shamrock received 2 points in the WW division.

Lightweight - Takanori Gomi
1. Takanori Gomi- 306 points, 18 1st Place Votes
2. Tatsuya Kawajiri- 253 points, 6 1st Place Votes
3. Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro- 201 points
4. Yves Edwards- 171 points, 1 1st Place Vote
5. Joachim Hansen- 168 points
6. Genki Sudo- 157 points, 2 1st Place Votes
7. Josh Thompson- 128 points
8. Jens Pulver- 109 points
9. Hermes Franca- 90 points
10. Caol Uno- 54 points

Others Receiving Votes= Luis Buscape- 28 points, Dokonjonosuke Mishima- 23 points, Matt Serra- 18 points, Duane Ludwig- 16 points, Charles Bennett- 6 points, Ralph Gracie- 4 points, Ivan Menjivar- 3 points, David Hisquerdo- 1 point

*note= Chris Brennan received 8 points for the LW division

Fenix
03-28-2005, 11:42 AM
Why is Igor so far down the list?

Oliver Klosov
03-28-2005, 02:23 PM
What Jerk-off gives Nog a first place vote over Fedor?

LozanoJ1985
03-30-2005, 12:25 PM
i agree with it

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 12:28 PM
Why is Igor so far down the list?

Inactivity/feeble opposition would be my guess.



I'll write up my top 10 later on.

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 03:12 PM
My personal top 10's. Based on activity, record, quality of opposition, fight outcomes and how cute their hair is.

HEAVYWEIGHTS: (205lbs +)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Minotauro Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Andrei Arlovski
5. Frank Mir
6. Heath Herring
7. Josh Barnett
8. Sergei Kharitonov
9. Tim Sylvia
10. Ricco Rodriguez


LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION - (205 lbs.)

1. Wanderlei Silva
2. Randy Couture
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Dan Henderson
6. Yuki Kondo
7. Renato Sobral
8. Vitor Belfort
9. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
10. Tito Ortiz


MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION - (185 lbs.)

1. Evan Tanner Jeremy Horn
2. Rich Franklin
3. Jeremy Horn
4. Matt "Lil' GR" Lindland
5. Anderson Silva
6. Ryo Chonan
7. David Terrell
8. Joe Riggs
9. Nathan Marquardt
10. Jorge Rivera / Ivan Salaverry / Amar Suloev (tie)


WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION - (170 lbs.)

1. BJ Penn - if he still intends to fight at 170...
2. Matt Hughes
3. Frank Trigg
4. Sean Sherk - if he's still fighting...
5. Charuto Verissimo
6. Georges St. Pierre
7. Nick Diaz
8. Chris Lytle
9. Karo Parisyan
10. Jason Black - if he's still fighting...

LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION - (155 lbs.)


1. Takanori Gomi
2. Joachim Hansen
3. Yves Edwards
4. Vitor Ribeiro
5. Jens Pulver
6. Caol Uno
7. Genki Sudo
8. Tatsuyo Kawjiri
9. Hermes Franca
10. Norifumi Yamamoto.

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 04:16 PM
it occurs to me how thin the HW pool is in the bottom 5... I must be forgetting someone... Sylvia doesn't deserve the spot anymore.

Oliver Klosov
03-30-2005, 04:31 PM
it occurs to me how thin the HW pool is in the bottom 5... I must be forgetting someone... Sylvia doesn't deserve the spot anymore.

Semmy?
Buentello?
Ogawa?
Fujita?

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 04:55 PM
Semmy?
Buentello?
Ogawa?
Fujita?


...mmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh... I dunno. I'd put chunky Yoshida above all of 'em....

Oliver Klosov
03-30-2005, 05:04 PM
...mmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh... I dunno. I'd put chunky Yoshida above all of 'em....

I know, after you mentioned the HW's I had a hard time coming up with someone deserving. Maybe Rizzo.

Hunt has only beaten Bobish at HW, right?
Coleman maybe, but does he really deserve it?
Shamrock has only beaten Kimo.
Waterman, maybe?

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 05:26 PM
I know, after you mentioned the HW's I had a hard time coming up with someone deserving. Maybe Rizzo.

Hunt has only beaten Bobish at HW, right?
Coleman maybe, but does he really deserve it?
Shamrock has only beaten Kimo.
Waterman, maybe?


Maybe Shammy, sure... he's semi-active still... maybe. Not Rizzo he hasn't fought it too long..

heckyl
03-30-2005, 05:41 PM
um, JTT...if this has something to do with hair....why isnt takayama the #1 HW?

TILSON
03-30-2005, 05:48 PM
Here is my top ten list. Notcie that certain fighters that refuse to pick a weight class or are not currently active are not ranked.


HEAVYWEIGHTS: (205lbs +)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Minotauro Nogueira
3. Andrei Arlovski
4. Mirko Cro-Cop
5. Josh Barnett
6. Frank Mir
7. Pedro Rizzo
8. Sergei Kharitonov
9. Heath Herring
10. Tim Sylvia

Note: Ricco Rodriguez when active at HW is in my top ten.


LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION - (205 lbs.)

1. Randy Couture
2. Wanderlei Silva
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Rogerio Nogueria
6. Ricardo Arona
7. Tito Ortiz
8. Vitor Belfort
9. Dan Henderson
10. Renato Sobral

Note: Vladimir Matushenko when active at LHW is in my top 10. (He needs to fight at LHW in my opinion.)


MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION - (185 lbs.)

1. Evan Tanner
2. Jeremy Horn
3. Rich Franklin
4. Matt Lindland
5. Anderson Silva
6. Ryo Chonan
7. David Terrell
8. Joe Riggs
9. Ivan Salaverry
10. David Loiseau

Note: Murilo Bustemante when active at MW is the #1 MW in the world. Kasushi Sakuraba when active at MW is in my top 10.


WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION - (170 lbs.)

1. Matt Hughes
2. Frank Trigg
3. Sean Sherk
4. Georges St. Pierre
5. Charuto Verissimo
6. Karo Parysian
7. Nick Diaz
8. Chris Lytle
9. Jason Black
10. Jutaro Nakao

Note: When active as a WW BJ Penn is the #1 fighter in the division.


LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION - (155 lbs.)


1. Takanori Gomi
2. Yves Edwards
3. Joachim Hansen
4. Vitor Ribeiro
5. Jens Pulver
6. Tatsuyo Kawjiri
7. Josh Thompson
8. Duane Ludwig
9. Norifumi Yamamoto
10. Genki Sudo

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 05:49 PM
um, JTT...if this has something to do with hair....why isnt takayama the #1 HW?


The Golden Mane defies silly ranking lists.

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 05:52 PM
Good picks Tilson - and The Janitor is apparently going to fight at LHW now - and I agree he'd be in my top 10 as well.

TILSON
03-30-2005, 06:01 PM
Good picks Tilson - and The Janitor is apparently going to fight at LHW now - and I agree he'd be in my top 10 as well.

I was curious about Ricardo Arona not being on your list. Did you forget about him? Or do you just not think that highly of him. Don't get me wrong I think he is boring as all get out but the guy wins and wins some more.

heckyl
03-30-2005, 06:02 PM
The Golden Mane defies silly ranking lists.


oh yeah. it should be naturally assumed the hawt one is above all. reps to you for reminding me of the hawt ones power.

Oliver Klosov
03-30-2005, 06:11 PM
What is the justification on ranking Chuck ahead of Rampage?

heckyl
03-30-2005, 06:14 PM
What is the justification on ranking Chuck ahead of Rampage?

nothing. thats one of those things that somebody pulled right out of their ass. thats why i dont take these rankings very seriously. they contain some pretty silly numbers sometimes.


ooooh this is JTT ranking here.....i seeeeee......whats the deal here? Chuck got his ass kicked by Rampage.

TILSON
03-30-2005, 06:14 PM
What is the justification on ranking Chuck ahead of Rampage?


Rampage has looked lackluster as of late. Chuck has looked impressive. Chuck was injured when they fought.

heckyl
03-30-2005, 06:16 PM
Chuck still lost. how has Rampage looked lackluster? cause he lost to the best 205'er in the world? or because he edged out a win against a very aggressive Ninja?

TILSON
03-30-2005, 06:58 PM
Chuck still lost. how has Rampage looked lackluster? cause he lost to the best 205'er in the world? or because he edged out a win against a very aggressive Ninja?

OK then. I guess that Vitor should be ranked higher than Silva since he beat him right?

Oliver Klosov
03-30-2005, 07:09 PM
OK then. I guess that Vitor should be ranked higher than Silva since he beat him right?

That's ridiculous, Vitor has lost many times since then, while Rampage only has twice, both to Wand, in good fights since that fight.

heckyl
03-30-2005, 07:12 PM
OK then. I guess that Vitor should be ranked higher than Silva since he beat him right?

that is a lil different of a situation. i think Oliver cleaned it up quite well for me.

TILSON
03-30-2005, 07:14 PM
That's ridiculous, Vitor has lost many times since then, while Rampage only has twice, both to Wand, in good fights since that fight.

I don't see why everybody so up in arms about this anyway. I think that Chuck would beat Rampage in a rematch. Why is that so hard for everyone to accept?

Oliver Klosov
03-30-2005, 07:22 PM
I don't see why everybody so up in arms about this anyway. I think that Chuck would beat Rampage in a rematch. Why is that so hard for everyone to accept?

I'm not up-in-arms, I just wanted to know the reasoning on ranking him Higher.

heckyl
03-30-2005, 07:27 PM
thats fine if you think Chuck will beat Rampage in a rematch, but let him do it first. or let Rampage lose some fights like Vitor has and he will move down.

TILSON
03-30-2005, 07:39 PM
I am sorry but I do not buy the "fighter must lose to move down" theory. I was one of the guys voting Wandy higher than Tito back in the day and Tito had not lost.

Johnny Toetags
03-30-2005, 07:42 PM
we're working on a front page addition for you guys who love these ranking things, we'll have our official rankings as voted on by you. coming soon.

Oliver Klosov
03-30-2005, 07:47 PM
we're working on a front page addition for you guys who love these ranking things, we'll have our official rankings as voted on by you. coming soon.

Will Gomi receive bonus "cute" points?

TILSON
03-30-2005, 07:47 PM
Excellent. Bloodyknux.com is soon to become the definitive MMA ranking site on the net.