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catch-as-catch can
06-04-2006, 06:50 AM
I think the determining difference in this fight is going to be attitude. Although Bernard is not only coming off two losses in his own division, but is challenging the best fighter in the 15 pound heavier division, Tarver is not Taylor, who happened to win two extremely close and contraversial decisions and Tarver's real claim to fame is his three fights with a faded Roy Jones. To Bernard, this fight is literally do or die and his training and proper muscle mass increase by the best in the business will enable him to dominate his naturally bigger opponent. I think his timing to win is perfect. Tarver is coming of a major distraction, making a movie with Sylvester Stallone, and having to lose a lot of weight ( down from 225 ). I can't help but think of what happened to Tommy Morrison after he stared in Rocky V.
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-04-2006, 09:58 AM
It depends on which Tarver shows up. If the one who lost to Johnson shows up then we have a close fight.
Tam-Tam
06-04-2006, 09:13 PM
Tarver has to drop down from about 222-230 for every single fight he's been involved in since 2003, mate.
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-04-2006, 10:41 PM
Tarver has to drop down from about 222-230 for every single fight he's been involved in since 2003, mate.
Then he should be used to doing it. Too many fighters blame dropping weight for subpar performances when they have fought at that weight most of there careers. If part of your game plan is stripping off a little weight ( not extreme anorexicia ala Corralles / Moralles ) and your finding it hard as time is ticking by then thats age, not the weight. The question should be is Tarver too old to get into LHW fight condition.
I think Tarver takes this in an auquard to score point victory.
Tam-Tam
06-05-2006, 12:00 AM
What Im saying is, these people need to stop it with these pre-made excuses. Tarver is a HUGE lightheavyweight and has been dropping that kind of weight for years. If he gets beat in this fight or looks shit...or whatever, its cos of Hopkins. Not cos of Tarver and his weight.
Tarver too old to get into light heavyweight condition? Ah, no. He's a big 175 pounder, but he's still a light heavyweight.
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-05-2006, 12:23 AM
What Im saying is, these people need to stop it with these pre-made excuses. Tarver is a HUGE lightheavyweight and has been dropping that kind of weight for years. If he gets beat in this fight or looks shit...or whatever, its cos of Hopkins. Not cos of Tarver and his weight.
Tarver too old to get into light heavyweight condition? Ah, no. He's a big 175 pounder, but he's still a light heavyweight.
I agree on the excuses. He is a big LHW and size is a part of his game. Its funny how fighters forget things like that when they blame dropping weight. The first thing that springs to mind when I hear that is 'Oh, so you have been slimming down to bust up naturally smaller guys then ?'.
Tarver is inconsistant. Weight / shoe size / short notice blah blah and all the excuses a fighter gives dont hide it when a guy just isnt the same every fight. Inconsistancy is a weakness in a fighter just as much as consistancy is a strength.
There are question marks over both guys really. BHop is ancient and Tarver runs hot cold. At least BHop has a legitimate excuse.
If BHop wins then massive kuods to him regardless of how Tarver looks as even a subpar Tarver is quite a mountain for a 41 yr old coming off 2 losses against a guy he would have dominated 3 yrs prior.
If Tarver wins then everyone will say 'BHop was too old'. Tarver, yet again is in a fight where win or lose he isnt going to look great. His carear is defined by him defining who is or isnt totally over the hill. He is boxings equivilant of the driving sight test.
Pain Dont Hurt
06-05-2006, 12:31 AM
The question was does he have a chance. Of course he has a chance. Anybody at the that level has a chance. I don't think he has the power to ko Tarver and I don't think he will we win. But I wouldn't be shocked if he was able to eek out a decision. The more I think about the more I want him to win and then retire on a good note. Remember he is trying to do what his idol could not.
elgigante
06-06-2006, 12:52 AM
ill be watching the cotto fight instead of this
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-06-2006, 01:04 AM
ill be watching the cotto fight instead of this
This is more interesting to me. An inconsitant annoying guy who is hard to beat and a possibly very over the hill legend.
Cotto will beat that lesbian senseless.
elgigante
06-06-2006, 01:16 AM
Cotto will beat that lesbian senseless.
and that is more enjoyable to me than watching a mouthy inconsistent prick like tarver pull out what will most likely be a boring UD win over a well past it Hopkins. to each their own
Tam-Tam
06-06-2006, 01:30 AM
I have zero interest in the Cotto fight. None.
This fight is significant at least. Its enogh for me.
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-06-2006, 02:18 AM
and that is more enjoyable to me than watching a mouthy inconsistent prick like tarver pull out what will most likely be a boring UD win over a well past it Hopkins. to each their own
That UD isnt guarenteed as AT is consistent as old custard. That in itself makes the fight interesting without even a mention of BHop's potential but likely past the sell by brilliance.
We are all well aware of what Cotto can do and what lesbian guido lacks.
Fuck, I know which one I am watching.
Tam-Tam
06-06-2006, 03:29 AM
Cotto might not even make weight, so I'll put all my eggs in the basket where the two world class fighters lie. Im not into some fight which is built ENTITELY on ethnic tension.
If you can't sell a fighter on the fighters, get the fuck away from me with it.
catch-as-catch can
06-06-2006, 04:51 AM
Actually, while he was shooting some scenes with Stallone, it was rumored that Tarver was about 240. He dropped some of that before going into training camp and was then 225. It's not all about him having to drop50 pounds as he's done it before, it's about his state of mind which is definitely distracted by the movie and future movie prospects. Not only is Tarver not 100% comitted to this fight ( as he feels that Hopkins is just too small for him ), for Hopkins this fight is literally do or die and he'll have the rightly increased muscle mass to do what his idol Robinson could not.
Tam-Tam
06-06-2006, 05:47 AM
Not commited? You're an ass. I'm sure you know it already, so I don't believe in wasting anymore time on it.
elgigante
06-06-2006, 10:47 AM
Cotto might not even make weight, so I'll put all my eggs in the basket where the two world class fighters lie. Im not into some fight which is built ENTITELY on ethnic tension.
If you can't sell a fighter on the fighters, get the fuck away from me with it.
im not sold on those two (Tarver and Hopkins) putting on a world class performance. something is telling me they are going to put on a shitty bout so im finding cotto more appealing at this time. the name value is definetly more for the tarver fight though so more will buy it for sure. the buildup for this bout has also seemed damn near nonexsistent to me. im just not excited much at all by this bout
catch-as-catch can
06-06-2006, 11:03 AM
Not commited? You're an ass. I'm sure you know it already, so I don't believe in wasting anymore time on it.
Now I thought you were going to behave like a good little boy, but you just can't help your sorry ass. By getting personal, you are just another clueless jackass. When Tarver decided to do Rocky VI, his commitment to the light-heavyweight division went out the door. They wanted to make him a big heavyweight, so they pumped him up to 240. He eventually dropped 15 pounds and then he had 8 weeks to drop another 50 for his fight with Hopkins. While Hopkins is building himself up, Tarver is in the process of thearing himself down. When everything is said and done , I allready know what his excuse is going to be.
NutzOnUrFace
06-07-2006, 05:27 AM
Now I thought you were going to behave like a good little boy, but you just can't help your sorry ass. By getting personal, you are just another clueless jackass. When Tarver decided to do Rocky VI, his commitment to the light-heavyweight division went out the door. They wanted to make him a big heavyweight, so they pumped him up to 240. He eventually dropped 15 pounds and then he had 8 weeks to drop another 50 for his fight with Hopkins. While Hopkins is building himself up, Tarver is in the process of thearing himself down. When everything is said and done , I allready know what his excuse is going to be.
I don't think it matters. Hopkins still has a very slim chance to win. Tarver is bigger, stronger, and younger, and will probably TKO Hops late, or pull out a decision.
catch-as-catch can
06-07-2006, 06:51 AM
I don't think it matters. Hopkins still has a very slim chance to win. Tarver is bigger, stronger, and younger, and will probably TKO Hops late, or pull out a decision.
Many feel the way you do and that's why Hopkins is regarded as the dog in this fight. I'm looking at the overall picture and taking into account special sircumstances that give me incentive to bet on the dog.
elgigante
06-07-2006, 10:41 AM
Cotto might not even make weight.
there is something screwy going on with this bout. the weigh in got moved to 1 o clock friday so your theory might have a bit of credence. malignaggi's people are pissed as hell
Tam-Tam
06-07-2006, 11:52 AM
Dude, trust me there is movements behind the scene involving ALL of Arum's lads. Their weight days are over.
Look for Rafael Marquez and Jorge Arce to be moving up a division or two real soon and look for Morales to have major league trouble getting to 130.
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-09-2006, 03:18 AM
I managed to get a few Malaganannganagnaio fights. I didnt realise but I have seen him before on a few undercards.
Cotto for sure. Guido is quick yeah but most fighters can be quick with light punches. I see Cotto taking the fight right too him and brushing off alot of the shots only to land his big ones. Speed is one thing but when there isnt much power you have a guy who's oponents arent at all fearful of just bulling in there and trading / infighting. Cotto around the 8th.
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-09-2006, 03:20 AM
Whats with this 'Respect' bollix from tarver almost every time there is a camera infront of him. Its rather tiresome now.
Bishop
06-09-2006, 03:25 AM
After seeing the special on HBO and seeing Hopkins training....he's got a slight chance. But then seeing Tarver train, it makes Hopkins chances slim down even more
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-09-2006, 05:53 AM
After seeing the special on HBO and seeing Hopkins training....he's got a slight chance. But then seeing Tarver train, it makes Hopkins chances slim down even more
HUMPH! They have the Cotto fight on instead of this in the UK. Thats tremendously gay of them.
I am quite looking forward to a fight I will have to watch on my PC after avoiding all contact with the result.
Boxing results are like porn for me. I just have to take a peak even though I shouldnt and it ruins my........ excitment and makes my hand.... ache ?!?!?! Forget it.
elgigante
06-09-2006, 06:15 AM
will you be to drunk to watch the cotto fight with england playing in the afternoon in the World cup?
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-09-2006, 12:38 PM
will you be to drunk to watch the cotto fight with england playing in the afternoon in the World cup?
Good news for me. Both fights are on and they are free too! We only have to pay for Hatton here but since they have started setting up the Ricky Hatton Church of divine worship here its not surprising.
Not massive on soccer. I go for the atmosphere. Boxing is my drinking sport.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:18 AM
Let it be known: Emanuel Steward does not like cloth.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 01:21 AM
Will there be a PBP done on either of these fights tonight??
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my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:23 AM
If need be, I can do some round recaps for Tarver/Hopkins as it goes. I'm too lazy for serious PBP tonight.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:28 AM
Paez' kid lacks the power for 140, and fighting four rounders really does nothing to allow him to wear down his cans. Weak sauce for the second time in five weeks from Paez Jr.
elgigante
06-11-2006, 01:28 AM
Let it be known: Emanuel Steward does not like cloth.
paez jr is cloths best friend.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:29 AM
Hartman just turned to the camera and said "He don't hit hard." That just about sums up Paez Jr.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 01:30 AM
Round by round would be fine. They usually do boxing that way anyway. Most of the time, they're quicker to post what's going on than the other place that I go to, and that place is a boxing concentrated fora.
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So did Paez Jr. win or what?
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:36 AM
It just took Merchant like 5 minutes to tell the fucking Leija/Camacho Jr. debacle story. Lampley then recapped it in 20 seconds.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:37 AM
So did Paez Jr. win or what?
Yes. 40-36, 40-36, 49-37.
Also, Lampley apparently suggested Tsurkan come out to "Lose Yourself" by Eminem, but Lampley was personally distraught when Tsurkan came out to "some other piece of music" in the form of "Enter Sandman" by Metallica.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:39 AM
"Camacho...said... ... ...his opponent... couldn't ... ... spell 'boxing' ... ...but the question is... ... ...can Camacho... ... ... ...spell... ... ...fighting."
Thanks, Larry.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 01:42 AM
Larry Mechant is a tad long-winded.
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my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:46 AM
Tsurkan landed approximately 800 lowblows that round.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:52 AM
This is retarded. Camacho Jr. decides he wants to stand in the pocket and trade, and just sits in the corner and gets drilled Tsurkan is winning this fight, and if his cardio is as good as they're saying, shit isn't looking good for Camacho. Two good counter punches per round isn't cutting it.
elgigante
06-11-2006, 01:54 AM
very nice action in the last minute of that round. i thought tsurkan was out on his feet but damn if he didnt rally nicely.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 01:54 AM
Camacho just drilled Tsurkan in the face like 500 times, and the guy didn't look like he had any clue where he was. Then he stood up and just started punching back like a robot. This dude is furious.
elgigante
06-11-2006, 01:54 AM
tsurkan would be wise to keep his right hand up
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:00 AM
Hahahaha. Lampley just said Camacho Jr. had "doughy legs". What a gayblade.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:07 AM
I've got it 67-66 Tsurkan through seven.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:08 AM
TSURKAN STOPS CAMACHO JR.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:09 AM
Yeah. That stoppage ate dick.
elgigante
06-11-2006, 02:09 AM
edit: camacho has a gripe
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:12 AM
Time for Israel Vazquez to deliver some goods.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 02:20 AM
That sucks for Junior. Can it be elaborated on ? WHat happened?
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elgigante
06-11-2006, 02:21 AM
That sucks for Junior. Can it be elaborated on ? WHat happened?
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tsurkan was delivering a solid flurry of punches and camacho wasnt returning. camacho didnt look in trouble at all and was blocking many shots but yet it was stopped. i hate camacho but he got screwed there
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:25 AM
Lampley is jizzing over Vazquez' hair frosting.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:28 AM
Showed the cards from the Camacho Jr./Tsurkan fight. Tsurkan was ahead through 7 67-66, 68-65, 68-65. With the amount of gas he had left, Camacho Jr. wasn't winning that shit. Shame it ended the way it did, though.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:38 AM
Next time Lampley refers to "the front on top of Vazquez' head", I am shooting someone.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:42 AM
I went to get a beer and they stopped it. I didn't think the blood was that bad. Dizamn. Oh well. Vazquez was dominating.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 02:50 AM
Are you old enough to drink msia? :)
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my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 02:55 AM
Are you old enough to drink msia? :)
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In this country? Yes.
Also, Bernard Hopkins just defined his punching as "Crispy".
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:01 AM
"Wait till you see Bernard Hopkins new light heavyweight body... ..its is SPECTACULAR!"
All this, after talking about hair frosting all night?
Jim Lampley is gayer than John Perretti.
WAR HOPKINS!!!!!!!! I got a lot of vcash riding on this.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:06 AM
Tarver is so goddamn heel.
Round 1: Hopkins opens up clinching and wrestling with Tarver. Tarver stays busier with the jab. Both guys landed a few decent shots that had the crowd buzzing. All in all a slow round, no real clear cut favorite. Probably a Tarver round.
compliments of http://www.mmanews.com/article/151996282.php
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:16 AM
I'm too lazy to do round by round shit. By so far, we're through two rounds, and both guys are being aggressive. Getting rough in the clinch, throwing the nasty little shots. Hopkins stole Round 1 with a good flurrying combo that put Tarver on his heels. Round 2, Tarver landed a hard left hook, but Hopkings turned it on after that. Tarver is trying to land with the jab and left cross, and Hopkins is scoring with hard rights and body shots. I have it 20-18 Hopkins.
Round 2: Another slow round to begin, but got busy towards the middle portion. Tarver landed a big left that seemed to hurt Hopkins, but it really just made Hopkins come harder, and Hopkins began landing cleanly over and over. Probably a Hopkins round
Sounds like mmanews has is even at 1 a piece.
Edit: ESPN gave Hopkins both rounds.
Oliver Klosov
06-11-2006, 03:18 AM
lots of wrestling.
Round 3: Probably another Hopkins round. Tarver is fighting cautious. Hopkins isn't exactly blazing himself, but he's picking and choosing combos and landing when he does. We'll have Lederman's card during this round.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:21 AM
Round three, more of the same. Both guys land hard, but Hopkins lands much more frequently. He's way ahead in connecting with power punches. He's getting inside and getting nasty in the clinch too. Landing lots of little chippy blows. Tarver isn't setting up his shit efficiently enough and is only catching Hopkins when he comes in overzealous. I have it 30-27, but it could be 29-28 Hopkins with Round 1 going to Tarver.
Lederman scored card has it 3-0 Hopkins.
WAR FUCKIN HOPKINS!!!!!!!
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:24 AM
Round 4 was mostly more of Hopkins at the beginning, diving in suddenly with the straight right and a flurry, and stepping out. Tarver stepped up late with his left though. I think he did just enough to steal it. 39-37 for Hopkins.
Round 4: Probably a Tarver round here. He had some big moments towards the end of the round, landing some big shots. Hopkins didn't do much for most of this round, so I'm pretty sure this was a Tarver round. That'd make it 2-2 on the unofficial MMANews.com scorecard.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:26 AM
HOPKINS KNOCKS DOWN TARVER
MSIA, I think your pbp is better than the one over at mmanews. I'll stop posted their pbp.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 03:27 AM
HOPKINS KNOCKS DOWN TARVER
*hair*
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my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:28 AM
Hopkins "knocked down" Tarver with a hard right that sent him reeling backwards, and while he was stumbling backwards his glove hit the canvas, prompting the count. Tarver's left eye is swelling up, and he's looking really weak, and basically lost out there. He isn't setting up his left, and Hopkins is getting stronger and bullying him around. Hopkins also scored a nice uppercut in the clinch. 10-8 Hopkins.
Fuck yeah!!!!!! Come on Hopkins.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:33 AM
10-9 round easy for Hopkins. Tarver lands absolutely nothing, Hopkins hit a hard right hook that clubbed him behind the ear, and jumped on him. Hopkins is aggressive, he's the one pushing the pace, scoring power shots, and Tarver is just standing around sleepwalking. Hopkins is only getting more confident and more aggressive. Tarver's left eye is clearly bothering him.
So much for Tarver ending BHop by round 6.
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 03:36 AM
10-8 round easy for Hopkins. Tarver lands absolutely nothing, Hopkins hit a hard right hook that clubbed him behind the ear, and jumped on him. Hopkins is aggressive, he's the one pushing the pace, scoring power shots, and Tarver is just standing around sleepwalking. Hopkins is only getting more confident and more aggressive. Tarver's left eye is clearly bothering him.
without a knockdown, its probably gonna be 10-9
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:37 AM
Tarver connected with a good combo in that round, his only offense in several rounds. Hopkins generally commanded the rest of the round though and scored a few okay shots. I'd give it to Hopkins. Hopkins is methodically ripping him apart, and Tarver's corner is pissed as shit. He looks like a zombie out there.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:37 AM
without a knockdown, its probably gonna be 10-9
I meant 10-9. Typo.
Tarver connected with a good combo in that round, his only offense in several rounds. Hopkins generally commanded the rest of the round though and scored a few okay shots. I'd give it to Hopkins. Hopkins is methodically ripping him apart, and Tarver's corner is pissed as shit. He looks like a zombie out there.
So is it that Hopkins is looking awesome, or Tarver is just looking like shit?
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 03:39 AM
does hopkins look like he's gonna ride out a dec? he probably already has it
or does he look like he's gonna finish this fight?
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:40 AM
Okay, Tarver's round, 10-9. He was coming forward and getting the combos to land, B-Hop was more surveying, trying to get Tarver to open himself up. Tarver is desperate, and probably knows he has zero shot of winning a JD. But he was able to cut the ring off a bit and put good punches on Hopkins a few times while Hopkins tried to keep moving out looking for opportunities to score.
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 03:42 AM
if i was hopkins, i wouldn't goto sleep, judges haven't been so good to hopkins lately
if i was hopkins, i wouldn't goto sleep, judges haven't been so good to hopkins lately
Understatement of the fuckin year. Hopkins needs to take it to Tarver hard so he doesn't get screwed again.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:44 AM
10-9 Hopkins. Hopkins was dropped in good short right hands when Tarver tried to come in. Tarver's jab has degenerated to pussy cat-esque pawing. Tarver landed a nice right inside at one point, but that was really it. Hopkins poured it on at the end, backed him up to the ropes and started to flurry. Easy round for B-Hop.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:45 AM
Honestly, there's no way Hopkins can get screwed by the judges at this point.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:48 AM
Absolutely humiliating. The entire crowd is on their feet.
Tarver is completely discouraged and can't even hit Hopkins. Hopkins is clearly just taking what Tarver gives him, not being overly aggressive, but he flurried with some hard combos including one where Tarver just laid on the ropes with his hands on his face, and and Hopkins smashed him in the guts twice. Then he was just ducking under slow punches and ran away. He ducked under a hook, and then jogged around the ring with his hands up to the crowd like "What the fuck is this guy trying to do? Hit me?"
10-9 round, and Tarver is impotent.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:52 AM
Easy 10-9 round. Hopkins put Tarver on the ropes several times flurrying, and it is starting to look like the Trinidad/Hopkins fight. Tarver is just a punching bag. When Hopkins flurries, Tarver just covers up and waits for it to stop. I can't stress enough how absolutely useless Tarver looks in there. Hopkins is just doing whatever he wants and enjoying himself, letting the crowd chant his name.
Final twelfth round coming up.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:52 AM
Tarver just told his corner he can't see out of his left eye, only to be shushed by Mcgirt. Owned.
CROKICK
06-11-2006, 03:54 AM
I hate Hopkins but its good to see Tarver being exposed as a never was by an over the hill legend. Maybe Tarver will shut his fucking mouth now.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:56 AM
More absolute dominance by Hopkins, and he dances around through the last round all the way to the finish.
Hopkins now leaning through the ropes, shaking Emanuel Steward's hand.
Tarver just told his corner he can't see out of his left eye, only to be shushed by Mcgirt. Owned.
lol. Come on Tarver, you've only got one more rd of this beating coming.
my sex is artsy
06-11-2006, 03:57 AM
Lederman scored it 119-108. I had it 118-108. Fucking ownage.
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 03:57 AM
good for bhop, he should retire, or ONLY fight jones jr.
smart thing, retire with everything in tact and multi millions
his legacy is cemented
elgigante
06-11-2006, 03:59 AM
congrats to hopkins indeed
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 04:01 AM
this erases the loss to taylor to me, since they were hotly disputed and close
wow, i didn't think bhop could pull this out
Tam-Tam
06-11-2006, 04:01 AM
LOL @ all the experts. Everyone's wrong.
Hopkins > Hagler, Monzon, Robinson. COMBINED.
elgigante
06-11-2006, 04:01 AM
wow, i didn't think bhop could pull this out
join the crowd. hell of a win by a legend.
Snacks
06-11-2006, 04:03 AM
Hopkins fucking pwns.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 04:03 AM
LOL @ all the experts. Everyone's wrong.
Hopkins > Hagler, Monzon, Robinson. COMBINED.
Settle down there, Tam-Tam. He beat a never-has-been. Big deal.
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CROKICK
06-11-2006, 04:04 AM
LOL @ all the experts. Everyone's wrong.
Hopkins > Hagler, Monzon, Robinson. COMBINED.
All those guys would have shit on Tarver. The fact that Tarver split with Glen Johnson should have told everyone that he isnt much good. At least Hopkins cemented it and his legacy
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 04:04 AM
LOL @ all the experts. Everyone's wrong.
Hopkins > Hagler, Monzon, Robinson. COMBINED.
you/d be surprised at how many of them called the upset, many called a thin decision
but i guess they were still wrong, since bhop dominated
elbowsmash
06-11-2006, 04:05 AM
no delta he beat THE CHAMP at LHW, no questions there
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 04:06 AM
Excuse me if I don't insist on going uber-nutthugg mode and proclaiming Hopkins as the greatest fighter ever to walk the earth.
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elgigante
06-11-2006, 04:08 AM
Excuse me if I don't insist on going uber-nutthugg mode and proclaiming Hopkins as the greatest fighter ever to walk the earth.
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your bitter because of the trinidad fight . please take the approach of it you cant play nice/civil, dont play at all tonight cause i can tell right now you are trying to start up something. be cool with this
Tam-Tam
06-11-2006, 04:09 AM
Hopkins > Bloodyknux.com!!
Oliver Klosov
06-11-2006, 04:09 AM
Hopkins > Bloodyknux.com!!
negs
elgigante
06-11-2006, 04:10 AM
Hopkins > Bloodyknux.com!!
Whitaker>Hopkins>Duran>You:D
CROKICK
06-11-2006, 04:11 AM
Whitaker>Hopkins>Duran>You:D
Coke KO1 Whitaker
elgigante
06-11-2006, 04:12 AM
Coke KO1 Whitaker
Life KO 1 Eubank. or was it hamed in the airport?
catch-as-catch can
06-11-2006, 05:13 AM
LOL @ all the experts. Everyone's wrong.
Hopkins > Hagler, Monzon, Robinson. COMBINED.
Not me! I called it and made a bunch of money ,too. But let's be real. Hopkins never beats Robinson, Hagler nor Monzon. Matter of fact, he gets knocked out by everyone of them. All those guys would hurt him and he wouldn't even put a dent in them.
Tam-Tam
06-11-2006, 05:23 AM
LOL, no one's ever so much as hurt Bernard Hopkins. And none of them would either.
Hopkins > Everyone.
Body_Shots
06-11-2006, 05:24 AM
Not me! I called it and made a bunch of money ,too. But let's be real. Hopkins never beats Robinson, Hagler nor Monzon. Matter of fact, he gets knocked out by everyone of them. All those guys would hurt him and he wouldn't even put a dent in them.
:rolleyes: Robinson is the best that ever did it though.
DeltaSigChi4
06-11-2006, 05:25 AM
Hopkins > Everyone.
lol.
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catch-as-catch can
06-11-2006, 05:35 AM
LOL, no one's ever so much as hurt Bernard Hopkins. And none of them would either.
Hopkins > Everyone.
So now Hopkins ( a guy with no one punch KO power ) is better than the best pound for pound ever????
Please give me some of what you're smoking.
elgigante
06-11-2006, 07:27 AM
for those who need to. go visit multimedia now for the bout
Allatura
06-11-2006, 08:00 AM
a big hells yeah for hopkins. He promised his momma that this was his last fight, and if so... congrats to him on a fine career. Hopefully now he can do an interview with Rome once a week, so I can get that "prison microwave" perfected.
Tarver should have taken more time off after being thrashed by Rocky. Hopefully that's a lesson learned.
Oliver Klosov
06-11-2006, 02:33 PM
Tarver should have taken more time off after being thrashed by Rocky. Hopefully that's a lesson learned.
You just don't recover from a beating From Rocky Balboa
MistaGStacka
06-11-2006, 05:18 PM
Rocky>Hopkins
DAZEDJELLYLEGS
06-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Tarver should have taken more time off after being thrashed by Rocky. Hopefully that's a lesson learned.
I dont think it would have effected the result much. BHop took him to school in a big way.
Zigga-Zagga
06-11-2006, 10:32 PM
I don't think I can add any insight to this thread, but still, just having seen it, I must say that I'm amazed that B-Hop shut him down.
And good stuff on what he said 'bout Taylor, nicely done.
Tam-Tam
06-11-2006, 11:04 PM
What did he say? He had better of mentioned the fact that Hopkins won both of those fights.
Zigga-Zagga
06-11-2006, 11:08 PM
What did he say? He had better of mentioned the fact that Hopkins won both of those fights.
B-Hop told Emanuel to say to Jermain to win his fight, disregard all the disrespect, act like a champ and to reprisent the middleweight division so they can both say that they are champions at the same time.
A bit corny? Yeah, but he was acting all jesus anyways.
Tam-Tam
06-11-2006, 11:14 PM
Yeah, thats classy enough. I'd have preferred it if he took the oppotunity to grill Merchant over his decision to pick Fernando Vargas over himself and lie about the whole Hopkins/DiBella situation. Good old HBO. They love you when you aren't fighting one of their golden kids.
this is the fight i saw because the party i was at didnt have the Cotto fight. B Hop just flat out out boxed him. once again Hops defensive strategy impressed me. his use of space and distance is textbook. oh and lets not even begin to say how well his left was working. Tarver had a look on his face like" dam i just cant do what i want to do to him", clearly frustrated.
Hops cememted himself as one of the best boxers of this era. which he was already in my eyes, but now not even the haters can question it.
WAR HOPKINS!!!!!!
Zigga-Zagga
06-12-2006, 08:29 AM
Yeah, thats classy enough. I'd have preferred it if he took the oppotunity to grill Merchant over his decision to pick Fernando Vargas over himself and lie about the whole Hopkins/DiBella situation. Good old HBO. They love you when you aren't fighting one of their golden kids.
Actually, when Merchant interviewed him, he said something along the lines "Man, I'm going to miss you 'though we've had our problems".
A good send-off for the Executioner. But he better fucking go to retirement and stay there.
Necrocide
06-12-2006, 01:56 PM
I'd rather see him fight Samuel Peter.
Or a lion.
Tauvington
06-12-2006, 04:06 PM
Rocky>Hopkins
I'd rather see him fight Samuel Peter.
Or a lion.
What's the deal with you West Virginians hating Hopkins? Must be something in the water there, I guess.
Necrocide
06-13-2006, 04:33 AM
We generally watch the fights together, Tauv. We hate Hopkins equally.
Dredd
06-13-2006, 04:38 AM
We generally watch the fights together, Tauv. We hate Hopkins equally.
I hate you for hating Hopkins.
Tam-Tam
06-13-2006, 04:42 AM
I hate people from middle america.
I hate people from middle america.
+1
Tauvington
06-14-2006, 12:35 AM
I hate people from middle america.
You hate just about everybody, though.
Tam-Tam
06-14-2006, 05:07 AM
Particularly people from middle America.
Necrocide
06-14-2006, 02:33 PM
I hate you for hating Hopkins.
Don't hate me just because I have better taste than you.
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