WTF? Tommy Morrison making comeback while claiming HIV test was ERRONEOUS????

[Lord Prawn]

Look at this from fightnews.com:


Morrison calls out Tyson!
Former heavyweight contender Tommy "The Duke" Morrison, fresh off his announced comeback, has already made it clear which fighter he wants to step into the ring with, calling out former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson. Although Morrison has yet be licensed in any state, and Tyson has announced his retirement, Morrison feels confident that the fight could take place. "I called Mike Tyson and spoken to him on several occasions," commented Morrison through his executive personal assistant, Susan Schaffer Martin. However, Martin did confirm that "they have yet to sit down and discuss a fight." Morrison added that he was "afraid that Mike has gotten too slow and lazy in his retirement playing with his pigeons. After all a retired boxer has to have a hobby, pigeons give un-conditional love." Morrison also added fuel to the fire by claiming that he was thinking of buying "a homing pigeon and sending over a message that we are serving squab for dinner." Morrison appeared close to a fight against Tyson in the late 1990s, shortly after signing a three fight deal with Don King. However his career was derailed by a failed HIV test, a test team Morrison now claims was erroneous.

[Lord Prawn]

Ahhh, now it all seems much clearer. The HIV thing is just a conspiracy. But of course.

http://sportsline.com/columns/story/9561292

[Lord Prawn]

Some background info for those idiots that still believe HIV is the cause of AIDS:

http://www.virusmyth.net

[Pain Dont Hurt]

Some background info for those idiots that still believe HIV is the cause of AIDS:

http://www.virusmyth.net


That is still the most widely accepted theory. 2006 and we still don't know fact from fiction with this disease. HIV or AIDS have nothing to do with why Morrison Tyson shouldn't happen.

[Lord Prawn]

That is still the most widely accepted theory. 2006 and we still don't know fact from fiction with this disease. HIV or AIDS have nothing to do with why Morrison Tyson shouldn't happen.

I think it might have something to do with it. For example, Mike Tyson might not be too keen on getting infected with HIV. I don't know Mike personally, I'm just guessing, but I think I'm right.

[Pain Dont Hurt]

I think it might have something to do with it. For example, Mike Tyson might not be too keen on getting infected with HIV. I don't know Mike personally, I'm just guessing, but I think I'm right.

What I meant by that was this fight should have happened 10 or 12 years ago not now. I don't care to see these two fight for two rounds and then see who falls down first. This should not and will not happen regardless of Morrison having HIV.

[Lord Prawn]

What I meant by that was this fight should have happened 10 or 12 years ago not now. I don't care to see these two fight for two rounds and then see who falls down first. This should not and will not happen regardless of Morrison having HIV.

Well, you got that right.

[Bird]

i saw the interview, hes in denial. its everybody elses fault but his. hes just trying to make some kind of hype. signs of a desperate man

[Pain Dont Hurt]

i saw the interview, hes in denial. its everybody elses fault but his. hes just trying to make some kind of hype. signs of a desperate man

He shouldn't have got greedy and tried to fight his mentor "Rocky Balboa".

Tommy: Hey, you don't know me! Nobody does! I want my respect.
Rocky: Well come and get it!

[Tommy punches Paulie]
Rocky: You knock him down, why'nt you try knockin' me down now.
George: In the ring! In the ring! Tommy Gunn only fights in the ring!
Rocky: My ring is outside.
Tommy: Yeah? Let's do it.

Damn that George Washington Duke "aka Don King" and his whores and money.

[DeltaSigChi4]

Don King is bad for the sport.

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[Lord Prawn]

Don King is bad for the sport.

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Well, I think this quite describes what Don King is for the sport:


http://nrich.maths.org/content/id/2912/yinyang.gif





That was pretty clever, wasn't it.

[DeltaSigChi4]

Where have you been, prawn?

I've missed you.

E

[Tam-Tam]

Don King is great for the sport and so is Tommy Morrison.

[Lord Prawn]

Where have you been, prawn?

I've missed you.

E

So have I.











I've missed you too.

[catch-as-catch can]

Now, as far as people go, I have no problem telling Don King to his face that he's a parasitic piece of shit and should hurry up and die so that cleaner boxing may live on.

[DAZEDJELLYLEGS]

Any further updates on this or has Morrison decided not to persue this incase he is rumbled and ends up back in the slammer ?

[Pain Dont Hurt]

Tommy Morrison had a seemingly boundless future in 1996. A former heavyweight boxing champion, he had had a starring role in “Rocky V” and was in line for his biggest payday, a showdown against Mike Tyson. All that came to an abrupt end, though, when he tested positive for H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS.

Keith Srakocic/Associated Press
In his first fight in 11 years, Tommy Morrison knocked out John Castle in a sanctioned event on Feb. 22 in Arthur, W. Va. He plans to have more fights.

Tommy Morrison beat George Foreman in 1993 for the W.B.O. heavyweight title.
These days, he is back in the ring. He fought in West Virginia in February, and his return has raised questions of just how a fighter whose blood tested positive for H.I.V. in 1996 could test clean today.

This year, Morrison took two separate blood tests to support his assertion that he was not infected with H.I.V., West Virginia officials said last week. The test results provide new details on why they licensed him to return to the ring 11 years after he tested positive.

Two nationally renowned H.I.V. experts reviewed those and a third blood test for The New York Times, and said they suggested Morrison had been knocked out of the ring by false positive tests — if, indeed, the new tests are his blood.

However, five prominent ringside physicians remained skeptical of the assertion because Morrison tested positive for H.I.V. a number of times in Nevada in 1996. The virus is not curable. Morrison had not publicly challenged the 1996 findings until last year.

The doctors all said the only way to resolve the issue was with new testing.

“I seriously, seriously doubt he would pass any of this,” Dr. David Watson, the chief ringside physician in Nevada, said in a telephone interview.

H.I.V. is of particular risk for boxers because of the wounds and flying blood sometimes associated with the sport. H.I.V. can be transmitted through cuts or mucous membranes in the eyes and nose, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.

Morrison, 38, who has often derided conventional views on H.I.V. and AIDS, said he was pleased to hear some experts supported his assertion of a false positive.

“People are starting to wake up,” he said last week in a telephone interview. “There’s been a lot of careers destroyed along the way for no reason. Mine’s certainly been one of them.”

The Times obtained copies of three documents, not previously made public, that purport to be tests of Morrison’s blood this year.

One of them, negative for H.I.V. antibodies, was a report from LabCorp in Phoenix on blood drawn Feb. 6 and was released by Peter McKinn, Morrison’s promoter. The second, which did not detect H.I.V. in DNA, was a LabCorp report on blood drawn Feb. 14 and was released by West Virginia. The state used those tests to license Morrison to box, said Michele Duncan Bishop, general counsel for the West Virginia Department of Revenue, which oversees the athletics commission.

A third test, from Specialty Laboratories of Valencia, Calif., on blood drawn Jan. 5, indicates Morrison tested positive for H.I.V. antibodies but negative for H.I.V. in RNA. That report was released by Randy D. Lang, Morrison’s former legal adviser, who said the antibody result showed Morrison was still infected.

But the experts said the RNA result in the same report raised the possibility that the antibody result was a false positive, an event that studies say occurs in fewer than 1 in 100,000 cases.

The mixed result in the Jan. 5 test makes it “likely that the antibody result is a false positive,” according to Dr. Daniel R. Kuritzkes, a Harvard professor who directs AIDS research at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston and is chairman of the board of the H.I.V. Medicine Association. Kuritzkes reviewed the test for The Times. Without additional blood work, he added in an e-mail message, “it’s hard to know for sure what’s going on, but I suspect he was never H.I.V.-infected.”

Dr. Michael P. Busch, director of the Blood Systems Research Institute and a professor of laboratory medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, said H.I.V. antibody screening was misinterpreted a small percentage of the time. He said the RNA and DNA tests, which measure the virus directly rather than through antibodies, would virtually prove that the person was not harboring even a latent infection.

“If those results are really all from this person, I would tell you there is no way this person is infected, so something is wrong with those earlier results,” Busch said.

Busch said there was a biological basis for some false positives on H.I.V. antibody tests, which makes some people repeatedly test false positive, although the reasons are not well understood.

Experts agreed that if Morrison was not infected with H.I.V. today, then he never had been. “There has never been a documented case of an H.I.V.-infected person who clears the virus and is cured,” Dr. Timothy Mastro, deputy director of the C.D.C.’s Division of H.I.V./AIDS Prevention, said in a telephone interview. Mastro added that the quality of H.I.V. diagnosis is “extraordinarily high.”

[Pain Dont Hurt]

That is the most recent article available on "The Duke"......I did decide to buy a t-shirt from his website!

[Skinnyboy]

I seen Tommy being interviewed before his comeback fight, stills of the fight, and the post fight interview - he's damaged goods.

HIV or no HIV, Tommy has as good of a chance at a meaningful comeback as Mike Tyson.

[Pain Dont Hurt]

I seen Tommy being interviewed before his comeback fight, stills of the fight, and the post fight interview - he's damaged goods.

HIV or no HIV, Tommy has as good of a chance at a meaningful comeback as Mike Tyson.

Ya think?

[BootyDaddy]

Can't somebody just prick him with a needle and give the blood sample to these expert doctors and end all this fucking nonesense already?

All this does he/doesn't he bollocks is getting on my tits. Surely it can't be this much hassle to detect the African love flu in someone's system.

[DAZEDJELLYLEGS]

Oh, he has it.

[Skinnyboy]

Ya think?

More than most.

[BootyDaddy]

Oh, he has it.

I agree mate, I don't believe him for a second. Check this out, it's a pretty good article about the situation he's in:

http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_5749

Tommy Morrison’s Bad Blood
A decade after testing HIV-positive, the two-time heavyweight champ is trying to come back—or at least pick a fight.

Redneck resplendent in flowing purple harem pants, a tight black T-shirt, boxing boots, and designer shades, Tommy Morrison charges past the pardon our appearance sign in the lobby of Houston’s decrepit Grand Plaza Hotel looking for an answer. “I’ve put up with this shit for a decade,” he yells, the veins in his neck bulging. “I’m so sick of it.”

It’s Friday Fight Night in the grand ballroom, where 1,000 fans are expecting Tommy “the Duke” Morrison—the “Great White Hope,” the great-grandnephew of John Wayne, the costar of Rocky V—in the ring three fights from now. But Morrison is stuck in a nightmare, the same one he found himself in 11 years ago.

They won’t let Morrison in the ring—something about his blood work. “The doctor who did his medical exam told me yesterday Tommy was good to go,” Dick Cole, the boxing administrator of the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, says, shrugging at ringside. “He just didn’t get the paperwork to me on time today.”

The bell for an undercard bout sounds. Charging past Conference Room B, where a dozen fighters are taping up, Morrison looks ready for any fight he can get tonight. His trainer, Jerry Cheatham, and his strength coach, Mike Munoz, slow him down, talking urgently in his ear, until finally he’s at least calm enough to get paid for the canceled fight without punching someone. Welcome to the exile of Tommy Morrison, two-time heavyweight world champion, hoping to make a comeback at 38. There’s just this little matter of his blood work standing in the way. In 1996 he was told he’d tested positive for HIV during a prefight medical exam, and his nightmare began. Banished from his sport, driven from his hometown of Jay, Oklahoma, he drifted toward oblivion: across four states, three marriages, seven DUIs, arrests for drugs and weapons possession, and inevitably prison. “Fourteen months, eight days, six hours, 46 minutes,” he’s quick to say; 125 of those days, he’s not so quick to mention, were in the psych ward of the Southwest Arkansas Community Punishment Center in Texarkana.

Things would go easier for Morrison if he would accept his condition and yield to prevailing authorities, to science, and to reason. “But Tommy,” says Brian Elder, a childhood friend, “has never been accused of listening too hard.” Six days after his diagnosis, Morrison held a press conference in which he speculated that he’d contracted the virus from an HIV-positive fighter or through unprotected sex. He got a referral from Magic Johnson—the AIDS-cocktail poster child—for HIV specialist Dr. David Ho, who’d later be named Time’s “Man of the Year.” In the years since, however, he’s been advancing every other explanation for his diagnosis: That it was a conspiracy to keep the undisputed world championship out of a white man’s hands, to help Don King “make gazillions out of the sport once I was out of the way.” That his positive result came from steroid abuse, not the unprotected sex Morrison was notorious for, and that “heterosexuals can’t transmit the virus.” That HIV is “an invented virus” making money for the drug industry. (“There’s no money in a cure,” Morrison says, “but there is money in treatment.”) That the antiretroviral drug AZT, not HIV, causes AIDS. That he was tested for antibodies, but not for the presence of HIV itself—the viral-load test—which Morrison claims to have passed repeatedly in recent years.

The antibody test, however, is standard, a fact that may prove fatal to Morrison’s comeback. (He has been cleared for only one bout thus far—in West Virginia, a state that doesn’t require supervised blood tests—and he won in a second-round knockout.) Once failed, the test can never be passed. The blood will always harbor the antibody. “All that antibody test does is pick up a protein,” Morrison contends. “You can test positive if your bagel had poppy seeds in it.”
“It’ll all come out,” he assures me as he takes a breather at a North Phoenix health club. Morrison came here a year ago—he’d run out of money and had been working construction for his father back in Oklahoma—and he’s sweated out the past 11 months in this gym and the adjoining boxing studio, owned by Munoz. Morrison fractured a bone in Munoz’s left hand not long ago, despite the inch-thick trainer’s pad Munoz was wearing. “It’s like they say about heavyweights,” Munoz avers. “The punch is the last thing that goes.”

Morrison trains as if his life depends on it: AIDS patients look ill; he looks like a body-builder—from the waist up, at least. He has the weird, top-heavy look of a genie emerging from a lamp: a huge, well-cut boxer’s torso atop sinewy distance runner’s legs that taper down to the tiniest little ankles.

A gym-rat milf comes by, looking Morrison over none too subtly, then leaves unacknowledged. Before the diagnosis, Morrison would have sex with three women a day. Part of his training routine. “Eight years running,” he says, sucking down a thick white drink. TCBY is tattooed on his right arm, and I ask if he’s drinking yogurt. “What the fuck are you talking about? That’s not a Y-Y!” Morrison says. “It’s a thunderbolt.”

Ahh. TCB thunderbolt. Elvis’ personal motto: “Taking Care of Business in a Flash.” Morrison has the King everywhere. In his mouth: The cap on his right molar is a tiny Elvis. On his ass: Morrison drops his Speedos to model a three-color portrait of early-Vegas Elvis on his right cheek. the king and i is inscribed below a hip bone pockmarked with what may be the tracks of a decade of juicing. Beneath it is the legend “1935—?”

Elvis Presley never died. Tommy Morrison never had HIV.

Morrison can still remember February 10, 1996, a fight day. At 45-3-1 with 39 KOs, he was a Great White Hope who loved fighting black men. (“All so tough till you hurt ’em once,” he says. “Then you own ’em.”) He remembers the terse voice of Tony Holden, his trainer at the time. “I don’t know how else to tell you,” Holden said. “Your test came up HIV-positive.”

In three hours, Morrison was due in the ring for a tune-up against Arthur Weathers, the first in a three-fight, $38.5 million deal he’d just signed with Don King. It would have led to Mike Tyson, at the time just out of prison, and then, potentially, a shot at the Unified World Championship, which was worth hundreds of millions.
Instead, he found himself hustled out a back alley into a van to the airport and onto a series of puddlejumpers back to Oklahoma. “It didn’t hit me though,” he says, “till I was walking in the Tulsa airport and there’s this crowd of men looking at me on TV, jaws dropped. I’d gone from being everything they aspired to, to everything they feared.”

By the following day, the signs reading jay, oklahoma, home of wbo heavyweight champ tommy Morrison had been ripped from both ends of the one-stoplight town. Friends no longer answered his calls, or they’d have a “Get the kids out of the room” look when he came over.

Then he was burned out of town. He came back from a ski trip in 1998 to find his ranch in ashes. To this day, Morrison suspects arson. He often used to wonder whether it was someone from his graduating class, the one that had voted him Least Likely to Survive.

Morrison was living up to that billing. When he got his first box of AZT, he couldn’t get past the list of crippling side effects. Just a “box of poison,” he says. “Did it kill the virus? Probably, but it also lowered the immune system so much that a common cold would take you off.”

“We begged him to reconsider,” his mother says, “but he flat told us, ‘I’ll lay down on the floor and die on the spot before taking AZT.’” According to Morrison, he hasn’t taken a single antiretroviral “except for those 125 days on the psych floor, where I never belonged.”

His T-cell count reportedly dropped to 18 —low enough for doctors to diagnose full-blown AIDS—then he started forgetting things: One DUI came when he forgot to remove the pump after gassing up. Then he forgot to transfer a 9mm to his checked baggage at Newark airport.

“At first he was freewheeling, still with a pocketful of money,” his friend Brian Elder remembers. “Then his weight started dropping—his legs got particularly thin. His hair fell out, and he had these nagging coughs. We all figured he didn’t have long to go.”

“By 1998 Tommy was looking pretty bad,” his mother says. “I took him to a doctor in Kansas City. He sat him down and convinced him, and Tommy took the lightest possible cocktail until a couple of years ago—just three little pills a day.”

I haven’t been sick a day since February 10, 1996,” Morrison insists, ringside at Munoz’s boxing studio. “My so-called symptoms were from street drugs.”
He begins wrapping tape onto his right hand, then his left hand. “I pretty much thought this thing into existence,” Morrison says of his comeback. “You think about something all the time. Eventually you become what you think about. They gave me a death sentence 11 years ago and I’m still here, still thinking,” he says, drawing blood as he removes a nipple ring with taped hands. “My whole life has been about declaring dominance. It didn’t happen the first time, but when I beat them all and get the belt back, you’ll know it too.”

He’ll probably never get the chance. After the Houston cancellation, Morrison withdrew his application to box in Texas—an indication that more may be amiss than just late paperwork. Morrison says he no longer plans to box there, so there’s “no point” pursuing a license. In early June, his former agent, Randy Lang, told the Arizona Republic that the HIV tests Morrison supposedly passed, including the one sent to boxing authorities in West Virginia, were rigged—the results of falsified documents or switched blood samples. “You know what? We have [the tests] on tape,” Morrison says. “The more Lang opens his mouth, the more he incriminates himself.” Morrison left sanctioned boxing for a cage match against a 342-pound mixed martial artist at a Yavapai-Apache Nation casino, outside any state’s licensing jurisdiction. The bout, which Morrison won by technical knockout, likely signals a descent into the freak-show side of fighting. Morrison has even begun a war of words with Ultimate Fighting Championship’s Chuck “Iceman” Liddell, fresh off his cameo on Entourage. As he pounds his gloves and enters the training ring, it’s clear Morrison just wants to get on a stage somewhere, anywhere, and punch someone. Declaring dominance may be the key to his survival. His story is practically epic: Rocky 25 Million, the boxer who decided to fight rather than be a deadly virus’s next victim. But it could, and should, be so much bigger: His radiant health is a powerful argument for whatever regimen he has followed. How many doors could his return open for fellow pariahs if he’d just acknowledge his condition?

The moment he steps out of the ring and opens his mouth, however, Morrison’s need to dominate actually makes him rather small. “You look patient in there,” I say.

“I learned patience in prison,” he says. “Learned the value of time there, too, and that I really don’t like black people.”
How do you respond to that? “Maybe you learned your lessons too late?” I ask. Morrison counters without blinking. “Isn’t that the only time you ever learn them?”

[Skinnyboy]

I've read a few articles pertaining to Tommy's situation. That was one of the better ones.

[elgigante]

tommy isnt a boxer anymore remember? he fights fat guys in cages on far off the beaten path casinos in Arizona and such places cause he is the next big thing in MMA :rolleyes:

[heckyl]

tommy isnt a boxer anymore remember? he fights fat guys in cages on far off the beaten path casinos in Arizona and such places cause he is the next big thing in MMA :rolleyes:

ohhh no. he fights under mma rules until 5 mins before the bell, then changes the rules to a caged boxing fight with 4oz gloves.

[Pain Dont Hurt]

ohhh no. he fights under mma rules until 5 mins before the bell, then changes the rules to a caged boxing fight with 4oz gloves.

Yep, and lets make a rule that we can't have threads about him anymore. Yipee!:) :)

[Animal Squabbles]

He shouldn't have got greedy and tried to fight his mentor "Rocky Balboa".

Tommy: Hey, you don't know me! Nobody does! I want my respect.
Rocky: Well come and get it!

[Tommy punches Paulie]
Rocky: You knock him down, why'nt you try knockin' me down now.
George: In the ring! In the ring! Tommy Gunn only fights in the ring!
Rocky: My ring is outside.
Tommy: Yeah? Let's do it.



hahahaha

[Cleaver]

Maybe he's immune to the HIV.

[Animal Squabbles]

?I learned patience in prison,? he says. ?Learned the value of time there, too, and that I really don?t like black people.?
How do you respond to that? ?Maybe you learned your lessons too late?? I ask. Morrison counters without blinking. ?Isn?t that the only time you ever learn them??

ahaha, hes a drain dead racist

[Tauvington]

Can't somebody just prick him with a needle and give the blood sample to these expert doctors...

Or just stab him through the neck with a KA-BAR, and let him bleed out? Morrison is a colossal tool, and the sooner we can get rid of him for good, the better.