SHOOTO: BACK TO OUR ROOTS 5 9/22 Discussion - RESULTS RESULTS!!

[shiroobi]

Mamoru (STG Yokohama) vs Yasuhiro Urushitani (Wajyutsu Keisyukai RJW)
Kenji Osawa (Wajyutsu Keisyukai A3) vs Daniel Lima (Five Rings Dojo)
Setsu Iguchi (TEAM BADASS13) vs Jin Akimoto (Akimoto Dojo Jungle Junction)
Atsushi "ATCH Anarky" Takeuchi (Paraestra Tokyo) vs Shinya Murofushi (Submit Shizuoka)
Eiji Murayama (Shooting Gym Hakkei) vs Sakae Kasuya (K'z Factory)
Hiromasa Ougikubo (Paraestra Matsudo) vs Kazuya Tamura (Mach Dojo)
Akihiro Yamazaki (Submit Shizuoka) vs Daisuke "Hunt" Okumiya (Paraesta Hakata)

Participate Rumina Sato (Roots)

http://blog.olga.to/osawa/Image/DSC01935.JPG

Discuss.

[Snacks]

Good Lacquer, Osawa, Kasuya, and Ougikubo gonna rep their cliques.

[krikit]

Looks solid, Shinya vs ATCH should be interesting. Not super excited about Lima & Akimoto back though.

[EndlessFighter]

That's an awesome card.War Okumiya.

[Cosmetics]

I'm not familiar with Atch or Hunt. Aren't they super small...like 114 or below? Lima x Osawa should be fun. Akimoto needs to vanish. Everytime I think he's gone...BOOM, he pops again. Tamura lost to Eda in his last outing despite it not being official, I hope he gets crushed because he's favored by Shooto IMO. Urushitani's has skills, but every fight is like a sparring match. I hope Mamoru breaks him. So-so card at this point.

[Betro]

WAR Shinya Murofushi!!

[Kilroy]

WAR Shinya Murofushi!!

YES!

I was so dissapointed in his last performance though. :(

[Cosmetics]

Murofushi is so impressive. I mean to actually compete in MMA with down syndrome is quite amazing!

[Kilroy]

Murofushi is so impressive. I mean to actually compete in MMA with down syndrome is quite amazing!

Why you be hatin' like that?

[my sex is artsy]

Murofushi looks more like Marafin's Syndrome than being a tard.

Daisuke Okumiya is a 168'er and one of the ugliest men alive.

[EndlessFighter]

Yeah,Murofushi looks like he's got Marfan's.If anyone looks like they have down syndrome it's probably that tard from A-Square.....Hirotaka Miyakawa.http://blog.livedoor.jp/alliance_hiro/71454d2d.BMP

[Antonio Carvalho]

This card looks amazing already! I have told Shooto that I want to be a part of this card. I also asked to be on the Back to our Roots 4 show. However, they told me they could not find an opponent for me :(

So instead, I am keeping myself busy by fighting in the next Shootboxing card on the 28th of this month :) For those who are not familiar with Shootboxing, it is essentially kickboxing with throws, takedowns and standing submissions. No ground at all. Andy Sauwer of K1 Fame comes from Shootboxing. The long pants that he wears are Shootboxing pants and is usually worn by fighters who represent the organization. Should be fun LOL!

Cheers guys!

P.s: I would be more then happy to give Sato a revenge match if he wants ;)

[Kilroy]

Haha, I wish the best for you Pato, its to bad they cant find you an opponent, but I guess its hard to find guys who wanna lose. ;)

[Cosmetics]

This card looks amazing already! I have told Shooto that I want to be a part of this card. I also asked to be on the Back to our Roots 4 show. However, they told me they could not find an opponent for me :(

So instead, I am keeping myself busy by fighting in the next Shootboxing card on the 28th of this month :) For those who are not familiar with Shootboxing, it is essentially kickboxing with throws, takedowns and standing submissions. No ground at all. Andy Sauwer of K1 Fame comes from Shootboxing. The long pants that he wears are Shootboxing pants and is usually worn by fighters who represent the organization. Should be fun LOL!

Cheers guys!

P.s: I would be more then happy to give Sato a revenge match if he wants ;)
Wow! Pato in Shootboxing! Good luck!

[ghost01]

This card looks amazing already! I have told Shooto that I want to be a part of this card. I also asked to be on the Back to our Roots 4 show. However, they told me they could not find an opponent for me :(

So instead, I am keeping myself busy by fighting in the next Shootboxing card on the 28th of this month :) For those who are not familiar with Shootboxing, it is essentially kickboxing with throws, takedowns and standing submissions. No ground at all. Andy Sauwer of K1 Fame comes from Shootboxing. The long pants that he wears are Shootboxing pants and is usually worn by fighters who represent the organization. Should be fun LOL!

Cheers guys!

P.s: I would be more then happy to give Sato a revenge match if he wants ;)


You never take a break do you haha.
good luck ;)

[Kilroy]

ttt just because!

[my sex is artsy]

Atsushi yamamoto-Tetsu Haidairo added to the card.

[Edgerrin32]

Atsushi yamamoto-Tetsu Haidairo added to the card.

Wow. door wide open for Suzuki to get a good ranking win. Would be huge to get the sub but unlikely.

do you know what rank Yamamoto holds after losing to Okazaki???

[machinemg]

Good show. Lots of big opportunities for developing guys. Would like to see Okumiya and Osawa do well and hope for a good opponent for Rumina.

[Antonio Carvalho]

Hi guys!

I find out this Monday if they have an opponent for me. It was orginally supposed to be Fujimiya according to Shooto. Why they never told me this before is beyond me lol. However, Fujimiya suffered a broken hand in his fight against Bao Quach so that won't happen. Anyway, I will post as soon as I find out if I am fighting or not.

Cheers!

[Cosmetics]

That's a dope av Pato!

[heckyl]

yeah that avatar indeed is the shit. hope they get an opponent for ya pato. and war mamoru!! break urushitani.

[brainuse]

It's hard to tell in black and white if your shootboxing tights were banging, but they absolutely better have been.

Too bad about 10K, I would have liked to see you bang with Fujimiya for a minute before you hit the floor.

[ikari47]

It's hard to tell in black and white if your shootboxing tights were banging, but they absolutely better have been.

They were, but the funny thing was that when he started sweating, his leg hairs started to show through. Looked like he had some white tiger stripe pattern going on there... :eek:

In any case, the folks at SB seem to really like him, so we may see him there again in the future, giving us far more opportunities to see him in the SB tights again.

[Antonio Carvalho]

Well, Shooto could not find someone for me to fight. So, no Shooto for me in september :(

That being said, on the 30th I will get a chance to show off my white shootboxing pants :)

Cheers!

[heckyl]

shootboxing again? awesome. will you be on this SB show?

http://fighttalk.nl/bereal/tn_rosmalen2.jpg

[shiroobi]

from
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/other/headlines/etc/20070905-00000017-spnavi-fight.html

Rumina Sato (roots) vs Hideki Kadowaki (Wajyutsu Keisyukai Tokyo Honbu)

[Kilroy]

Well, Shooto could not find someone for me to fight. So, no Shooto for me in september :(

There must be someone out there willing to lose? :(

[ikari47]

from
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/other/headlines/etc/20070905-00000017-spnavi-fight.html

Rumina Sato (roots) vs Hideki Kadowaki (Wajyutsu Keisyukai Tokyo Honbu)

Damn. I posted this at the same time as SportsNavi, apparently. :(

[Betro]

Kenji Osawa- Ranked the #4 Fly weight in SHOOTO with a record of 12-6-1. I translated an interview from the SHOOTO website. He fights Daniel Lima on Sep. 22nd, as one of the main events of in Korakuen Hall.


-- Do you train a lot at RJW? (Keishukai's Real Japanese Wrestling Dojo)

Osawa: I go to lots of places, also Tokyo Honbu (HQ). I get pretty hard training here at RJW, too. A lot of the pros show up here.

--There are really lots of pros at Keishukai, aren't there?
Osawa: There are fighters here that I don't even know! (laugh) I do know the guys who've fought in Shooto. There are lots of really serious fighters. Of course, that doesn't mean others don't work hard.

--Among them, who do you train with the most?

Osawa: I train with guys like Tetsu "Skin-colored" Suzuki a lot. Also "Fight Boss" Hiroyuki Takaya.

-- Now that you mention it, when you corner Tetsu and he comes out dressed like anime characters or other crazy things, do you take volunteer to dress up, too?

Osawa: No way, from the very beginning I resisted all the way! (laugh) But we did tell him, "You oughta do something", so it's not like we could refuse to do it after that. At first we didn't wanna do it, but now we're used to it. Sort of like, "What's it gonna be today?" Just by wearing something, I don't feel too conspicuous.

-- And certainly planning it together gets you fired up?

Osawa: No no no, it's really embarrassing. I hope I can cover up so my face isn't showing. Basically, on the day of the fight, Tetsu doesn't say anything until he gets to the venue. Then when we get there, he says, "Here ya go." He's usually pretty reserved and doesn't say much. To be asked by that kind of guy, well, you can't really refuse. THEN we open up the costumes he gives us, and it's like, whoa, are you serious? It's sometimes hard to move in that stuff, but now I'm used to it.

-- So now let's talk about your past fight in May against Marco Louro. That loss by decision must have been a pretty harsh for you. Looking back on that fight, what do you think?

Osawa: About that fight, I completely went and underestimated Louro. Actually, even when the fight started, I was thinking, "Wow, this guy isn't that great." His posture sucked, and half way through, I started thinking, "I don't want to let his strikes hit me." So from then on, so as to not to get hit, I looked to finish him cleanly with one blow.

--It looked like Louro shied away from your strikes, and stayed at a distance where your strikes couldn't hit him.

Osawa: That's right. He stayed far away out of range to keep me from entering. In my fights up til now, I never worried about the small stuff, but just kept steadily pushing forward. I guess after all, if I think too much unnecessarily while I'm fighting, it's no good.

-- What kinds of things were you thinking?

Osawa: At that time, I was thinking about a good time to throw a counter, like I did in practice. So, I looked at Louro and thought, "Hey, can I hit him with that?" But added to that, I didn't want to be hit even once. So naturally, we stayed at a distance. Louro still didn't try to close. Thinking back now to what was going through my head, there was no way I could counter from that distance. I should stick to doing what I usually do, after all. (laugh) Just fighting how it feels natural is best, I think. Thinking about toppling him with one clean blow isn't really natural. I love a good brawl. If I lose to that, that's just the way it goes. I want to leave everything in the ring, and have no regrets.

-- Usually, do you feel good during your fight preparation?
Osawa: For that fight, I was in superb condition. Even when entering the ring, I was thinking, "Man, I feel great." (laugh) But then when the fight started, I thought, "Huh? Geez, he's far. Well, nothing I can do but quickly bring'em down." Before I knew it, I was out of time. I couldn't get fired up, either. Felt like it was over before it started. Before I even heard the judgment, I was thinking 'Whatever.'

-- Was it painful for you?
Osawa: It was certainly painful, but it wasn't all about Louro. I was extremely disappointed in myself. "So I'm that kind of fighter, huh," I thought. If I had more humility, I think I'd have been more careful.

-- Were you thinking, you'd just manage somehow?

Osawa: Somewhat, yeah. So far, I've been fighting pretty tough opponents. When the name "Louro" came up, I didn't think he was that good. For me, he was probably the least intimidating opponent. When I was told that my next opponent would be Louro, I thought "Ah, how lucky!" (laugh) And then see what happened.

-- Would you say that that was your worst fight?

Osawa: Yes, it was my worst fight. It was horrible. In other fights I lost, I'd at least fought tooth and nail. This is the first time to feel this way. (bitter smile) I didn't bring myself out in the fight, which was something I never dreamed would happen. All in all, it showed lack of humility. If I could, I wish I could bring back all the people who came to watch my fight so I could apologize to them and explain. "Actually, that was all wrong," I'd say. (smile) I have confidence that I could explain enough if I had twenty minutes. (laugh)

-- And in the middle of all this, your rematch with Daniell Lima was put together. You drew with him in November 11th, 2005.

Osawa: My impression of him is that he's a strong fighter. In the middle of the second round I was pushing him, but about that time I started thinking, "Man, this guy isn't falling." That kind of broke my spirit. I hit him and hit him and he just wasn't going down. I hit him but he kept coming forward. In the second half of the fight, it started going at his pace.

-- Watching the fight, I got the impression that you were pushed both mentally and physically.

Osawa: I'd say that's right. But this time I'll fight my way without letting him control the fight. If I follow my instincts, it'll become my kind of battle- a slug-fest.

--Two years has passed since then. Do you think he'll still be hard to deal with?

Osawa: Yeah, probably. Now that I can think clearly, realize he didn't go down, but my punches didn't hit his face, either. Body shots and knees landed, though. There also wasn't enough power behind my punches. Now that I think of it, it makes sense those didn't drop him. Plus that guy's hard to land punches on. But, now I have confidence in my punches, so if I do it right, I know I can beat him. Everyone goes down if you hit their chin or the temple.

--On that note, let's move on. When current Feather Champion Akitoshi Kokazono was supposed to fight Ryouta Matsune, but didn't because of Matsune's injury. Now, it seems like there are no plans for Hokazono's first title defense fight.

Osawa: Hmmm, yeah, how about that?

-- It kind of seems like you're not really into it.

Osawa: Well, whatever happens happens.

--What do you mean?

Osawa: I don't know what those two are thinking, or how long it's gonna take. I'm a little worried about what they're going to do, like if they're going to retire, so me or someone else'll get to fight for the belt. To say it plainly, those guys don't take the belt seriously. I want them to understand just what it means to have it.

-- In the face of this, do you think you'll present yourself as a challenger?

Osawa: No, I don't think so. I fought Hokazono twice and lost both times. I feel odd talking about it like this....but it wouldn't be fun to fight Hokazono anymore. Not at all. About my next fight, though, I feel there's no way I can lose. That's because I'm going to go straight in and pummel him. Even if it becomes a matter of who earns the most points, I still want to do it.

-- When you fought him (Hokazono), did you feel he was very strong?

Osawa: He was good, but not especially strong. In that fight, I kind of flew off the handle and you can see the result. Well, the result being I lost, I guess you'd say.

-- When people talk about it, doesn't that make you want to try again?

Osawa: I wouldn't have a good time. I love to do MMA, but it's not like some game where I have to keep score. If I want a game, I'd go do some other sports. It's a difference in values. I want a fight where will clashes will. Although you could call it a strategy game where you try to avoid risk. Considering all that, that's why my fight with Louro was a rotten experience. (smile) But of course, it's my fault for letting that happen. Recently I think there are more and more fighters who fight for the "record-keeping game." A lot of guys forget why they started fighting. I want to ask them, "Hey, didn't you guys start MMA to become stronger, or what?"

-- You don't care about a rematch? (with Hokazono)

Osawa: Yeah, whatever. Like I said, they don't care about the belt. They're shallow. I want to fight to make myself better now. The fact that I'm thinking that myself means even more. I don't think this isn't the right time for me to aim at the belt. Instead of trying again for the title, I want to try fighting many different opponents. I want to I fight guys who feel the same way about fighting as I do.
-- Are there any opponents you definitely want to fight?

Osawa: A fighter named Koutetsu Okazaki fought before me on one card, and made a great showing. It was almost like a message to me. Does that mean I'll win like that? But of course I was really disappointed. Okazaki fights well, and has a strong heart. He'd be a good fight. Him or Masakatsu Ueda. He's good. Forget people who just want fights they can win. I want to put on a good exciting fight for the fans to enjoy. Things'll become more interesting if more of those kinds of fighters come into my weight division. (feather)

--Thanks for all your thoughts. Do you have any final message for the fans?

To the people who come see my fight, I promise you'll be excited! To the people who haven't decided, I want to say that you definitely should come! I'm not going to lose. There'll also be lots of other great fights you should see! When more and more fans come together, that's what makes MMA'll so thrilling. I'd like to humbly suggest a new way to support yours truly: from September I'll be selling my "Osawa towl." It's almost like a scarf, so you can hold it up over your head and wave it around. It'll be a crazy fight, so please come cheer for me!

Any comments about the interview, or messages for Kenji Osawa, please contact Roxanne at roxanne@63fight.com Interview taken from the SHOOTO homepage:
http://www.x-shooto.jp/schedule/detail/2007/070922/i02.html
pics from sherdog, SHOOTO, and Osawa's blog

Interview with Osawa from Shooto's website, translated by Roxanne Modafferi

[Tokyudo]

Two days. Can't wait.

[Phla Les]

Damn, so Takaya goes by "Fight Boss" now, huh? Pretty badass.

[Kilroy]

Two days. Can't wait.

1 day!

Is this the final card?

Mamoru (STG Yokohama) vs Yasuhiro Urushitani (Wajyutsu Keisyukai RJW)
Kenji Osawa (Wajyutsu Keisyukai A3) vs Daniel Lima (Five Rings Dojo)
Setsu Iguchi (TEAM BADASS13) vs Jin Akimoto (Akimoto Dojo Jungle Junction)
Atsushi "ATCH Anarky" Takeuchi (Paraestra Tokyo) vs Shinya Murofushi (Submit Shizuoka)
Eiji Murayama (Shooting Gym Hakkei) vs Sakae Kasuya (K'z Factory)
Hiromasa Ougikubo (Paraestra Matsudo) vs Kazuya Tamura (Mach Dojo)
Akihiro Yamazaki (Submit Shizuoka) vs Daisuke "Hunt" Okumiya (Paraesta Hakata)
Rumina Sato (roots) vs Hideki Kadowaki (Wajyutsu Keisyukai Tokyo Honbu)

Is there a good blog or site that has up to date cards for Shooto and shit?

[Kilroy]

an hour and a half away, who is gonna watch it?

[Left Hook]

I always watch. Going to need some help with a bunch of the fighters though.

Three events in one day, this is going to be headache inducing.

[Kilroy]

I always watch. Going to need some help with a bunch of the fighters though.

Three events in one day, this is going to be headache inducing.

Yeah, tell me about it.
Im already feeling like shit, cant sleep properly theese days.
I doubt Im gonna be able to stay up until 4 am and watch UFC 76...

[Left Hook]

I totally forgot you where on Swedish time. I feel your pain.

[Kilroy]

Just a few minutes left, just the two of us here?

[Kilroy]

thats some wicked horns...

[Kilroy]

ah crap.
The counter seems to be off by 2 hours. :(

[Left Hook]

I was wondering why it wasn't not yet.

[Kilroy]

15 minutes left now.

[Cell]

How do you get 15 minutes, my screen lists it to start at 5:00 CDT, and the counter is actually counting up, and is up to almost 2 hours, I am highly confused.

[Kilroy]

How do you get 15 minutes, my screen lists it to start at 5:00 CDT, and the counter is actually counting up, and is up to almost 2 hours, I am highly confused.

Yeah, the counter is off, and I think it is by 2 hours.
So +2 hours on the counter should be the right time.

And Im pretty sure Im right. :)

[Kilroy]

So, yeah, it starts now.

[Kilroy]

are you bitches watching or what?

[Cell]

I am, although I may or may not have to miss the main because I have to leave for training. I know I'll miss the beginning of Cage Rage because I will still be at training, and that sucks, but I do love to train.

[Left Hook]

WTF is in the ring?

[Left Hook]

are you bitches watching or what?

If you hadn't confused me with the time...

[Kilroy]

If you hadn't confused me with the time...

Not my fault, it was their counter and info that was off. :( Sorry.

[Left Hook]

Not my fault, it was their counter and info that was off. :( Sorry.

But you still called me a bitch. If I was a Diaz we would of had to duel. :D

[Kilroy]

But you still called me a bitch. If I was a Diaz we would of had to duel. :D

haha, I said in an endeering and friendly way. :)

[Kilroy]

buffering!

[Kilroy]

eh, who are we watching? I missed that part...

[Left Hook]

This is making miss Pride already.

[Cell]

This doesn't make me miss Pride at all, but it does hammer home the fact that Shooto's days of having the market cornered on tiny dudes is just about over.

[Kilroy]

This sucks, mostly blur... :(

[Left Hook]

pretty awesome first round.

[Kilroy]

pretty awesome first round.

From what little I saw it did look good.

But I still dont know who theese guys are. :o

[Left Hook]

From what little I saw it did look good.

But I still dont know who theese guys are. :o

Me neither but it is looking good. I have Gomi hair winning two, nothing.

[Left Hook]

ANKLE LOCK!!!!!

[Kilroy]

this is hilarious.

Bald guy lost imo.

[Left Hook]

Judges didn't agree with us. He won the Kurt Angle way.

[Cell]

Unless I'm mistaken that last fight was Setsu Iguchi and Jin Akimoto.

[Left Hook]

No one with that kind of terrible facial hair should be allowed to talk shit.

[Left Hook]

Wow this is some shitty music.

[Kilroy]

Unless I'm mistaken that last fight was Setsu Iguchi and Jin Akimoto.

You are correct.

[Kilroy]

lol, who the hell is that?

[Left Hook]

Why was shooto invaded by aliens?

[Kilroy]

Atsushi Yamamoto vs. Tetsu Suzuki now right?

[Cell]

You are correct, and Yamamoto is the one with the Killer Bee trunks.

[Kilroy]

You are correct, and Yamamoto is the one with the Killer Bee trunks.

I knew that! :p

But damn, there is usually very little buffering and pink blurring, this kinda sucks. :(

I have no idea how that round went.

[Cell]

Yamamoto is just so much crisper, and well better, than Suzuki at everything.

[Kilroy]

haha, NICE!

[Kilroy]

yeah, Yamamoto takes this me thinks. :)

[Kilroy]

weak gogoplata attempt, but if Brad Imes can pull one off...

[Kilroy]

Suzuki is looking strong here though...

[Cell]

That was actually a nice attempt at an inverted triangle, if only Suzuki weren't such weak sauce he may have been able to pull it off.

[Cell]

God, those aliens are sooo awesome!!

[Kilroy]

nice flying knee. :)

[Left Hook]

I am loving these guys playing to the crowd at the end of rounds with crazy bullshit to try and steal it.

[Left Hook]

God, those aliens are sooo awesome!!

They look ripped from Doctor Who.

[Cell]

Yamamoto should be so much better than he is, dude is buck strong, has good wrestling and crisp & efficient striking, but he just can't finish dudes or doesn't show up for fights.

[Cell]

They look ripped from Doctor Who.


Exactly, except for even cheaper. They seriously look like something built in the basement of some kid that watches Doctor Who.

[Cell]

Endo should murder Togashi, whenever the hell that fight happens.

[Kilroy]

Was it goonna be about the title?
I missed it, Im doing laundry...

EDIT: The vacant world title...

[Left Hook]

Exactly, except for even cheaper. They seriously look like something built in the basement of some kid that watches Doctor Who.

Now that is an awesome way of looking at it. Oh and the random Matrix music is killing me.

[Cell]

Did they just announce Toida versus Tamura?

[Left Hook]

Did they just announce Toida versus Tamura?

How in the world am I suppose to know?

[Kilroy]

Is Sato wins here, does he get to fight for the title? :)

[Cell]

By listening to the announcer when he brings the fighters out, you can pick up their names when they do that, and I'm pretty sure it was Toida versus Tamura, but the third fighter being in the ring was confusing.

[Cell]

Is Sato wins here, does he get to fight for the title? :)

Nope, I don't believe so. Sato better win here, although at this point in time I have a hard time ever picking Sato to win, even against Kadowaki.

[Kilroy]

Nope, I don't believe so. Sato better win here, although at this point in time I have a hard time ever picking Sato to win, even against Kadowaki.

Well, it IS Sato. :)

Wow, and you said it. :|

[Cell]

Jesus fucking Christ Sato, you just got caught in a Kadowaki Special, I'm like appalled at this turn of events.

[Kilroy]

Sato. :(

[Left Hook]

By listening to the announcer when he brings the fighters out, you can pick up their names when they do that, and I'm pretty sure it was Toida versus Tamura, but the third fighter being in the ring was confusing.

Turned the volume off after the fifth terrible song in a row. And poor Sato. :(

[Cell]

I like Kenji, but methinks Lima dominates him from bell to bell.

[Kilroy]

Yeah, Im thinking Lima here as well.

[Kilroy]

lol

[Kilroy]

Very nice knee from Kenji though, that looked like it hurt more then it seemed. :)

[Cell]

I love how Lima just swings for the fences and doesn't give two shits about defending or the other dude hitting him square in the grill.

[Left Hook]

Mini Filho looking dominate.

[Kilroy]

what the hell!!!
annoying!

[Left Hook]

WTF is going on?!?!?!

[Cell]

This should be hella rad, I like both guys, but I think Urushitani's general swankness will win out over the power of the fro.

[Left Hook]

This should be hella rad, I like both guys, but I think Urushitani's general swankness will win out over the power of the fro.

Never! Fro all the way. Especially with the stache.

[Kilroy]

I like how the sound is 5 seconds behind. :)

[Cell]

Hopefully the groin shot will cause the action to pick up, because so far this has been nothing but feint, feint, feint, and then circle away from both men.

[Kilroy]

It didnt, and I doubt this second one is gonna change things.

[Left Hook]

lol, ball shot. He looks dead.

[Cell]

Seriously does Urushitani have an unrealistically giant Asian wang or something, because that kick didn't look like it was anywhere near his package.

[Kilroy]

This fight sucks ass!

[Left Hook]

Seriously does Urushitani have an unrealistically giant Asian wang or something, because that kick didn't look like it was anywhere near his package.

He thinks he's Matt Hughes. :p

[Cell]

Based on what little I was able to see of that round I'd have to say it was a 10-10, and if you score it any differently then you are on crack.

[Left Hook]

I like how you can be so inactive and yet so tired.

[Cell]

He thinks he's Matt Hughes. :p


Hughes is a rural country boy, he has to have a giant wang, that's like the laws of the country.

[Cell]

I like how you can be so inactive and yet so tired.


In their defense they aren't really being inactive as much as they aren't finishing off their striking combos.

[Left Hook]

Hughes is a rural country boy, he has to have a giant wang, that's like the laws of the country.

One that stretches to his knee?

[Cell]

Another 10-10 round, neither man is willing to commit to anything.

[Cell]

One that stretches to his knee?


Yes, it is the law of the land in those parts, that's one of the reasons we don't stop the truck in those areas when we are driving through.

[Left Hook]

This has been the longest feeling out process in the history of MMA that didn't involve Tim Sylvia.

[Cell]

This is well on its way to being the first and only fight that I have scored 10-10 in all three rounds, that is sad.

[Left Hook]

it is almost insane to attack full on now because if you get caught you lose the fight.

[Cell]

Yep, 30-30 draw for me, that sucks too, because I had high expectations for this fight.

[Kilroy]

i am SO dissapointed in this figh, horrible.

[Cell]

I really don't get what Yasuhiro did to warrant a decision. He never engaged, he spent most of the time running away, and he never connected with anything significant.

[Left Hook]

It really is impossible to two fighters so damn sexy and the fight not be crap.

[Cell]

Also mark this as the first time a win moves someone down in my P4P rankings.

[Left Hook]

Why do they need after fight pics? He looks exactly the same.

[Left Hook]

Also mark this as the first time a win moves someone down in my P4P rankings.

You so can't do that.

[Cell]

I think you can with P4P, because P4P is more about skill than actual wins and losses, and Urushitani didn't show me anything in this fight to warrant him still being ahead of Carvalho, Henderson, or GSP.

[Left Hook]

He showed you how not to get hit. :D

[Kilroy]

From what little I saw atleast Yamaguchi tried to move forward...

[ikari47]

Wow, I'm surprised you guys didn't enjoy that fight.

I really dug it because Urushitani was really good at not being hit. I also saw it as him picking his shots in between, basically frustrating Mamoru who constantly tried to catch him with his power side.

I thought he did very well, not allowing Mamoru to corner him, disappearing out from under for the first half of the fight every time he closed in to attack, YET he still got his flurry in there, marking the afro up with his punches.

He deserved that win because he frustrated Mamoru throughout the bout while still landing a fair share of punches and body kicks.

[Kilroy]

Wow, I'm surprised you guys didn't enjoy that fight.

I really dug it because Urushitani was really good at not being hit. I also saw it as him picking his shots in between, basically frustrating Mamoru who constantly tried to catch him with his power side.

I thought he did very well, not allowing Mamoru to corner him, disappearing out from under for the first half of the fight every time he closed in to attack, YET he still got his flurry in there, marking the afro up with his punches.

He deserved that win because he frustrated Mamoru throughout the bout while still landing a fair share of punches and body kicks.

We also had buffering and pink blurring all the time so I guess that disrupted the pace of the fight as we saw it.

[Cell]

Wow, I'm surprised you guys didn't enjoy that fight.

I really dug it because Urushitani was really good at not being hit. I also saw it as him picking his shots in between, basically frustrating Mamoru who constantly tried to catch him with his power side.

I thought he did very well, not allowing Mamoru to corner him, disappearing out from under for the first half of the fight every time he closed in to attack, YET he still got his flurry in there, marking the afro up with his punches.

He deserved that win because he frustrated Mamoru throughout the bout while still landing a fair share of punches and body kicks.

Urushitani didn't land anything all that hard on Mamoru, and the few glancing shots that Mamoru hit were of the same value as what Urushitani hit. He did a great job on defense, but I don't believe you can win a fight on defense alone, you have to provide some offense as well, and Urushitani didn't provide enough offense to win the fight.

[Kilroy]

Urushitani didn't land anything all that hard on Mamoru, and the few glancing shots that Mamoru hit were of the same value as what Urushitani hit. He did a great job on defense, but I don't believe you can win a fight on defense alone, you have to provide some offense as well, and Urushitani didn't provide enough offense to win the fight.

Wasnt your feed unstable as hell as well?

[Cell]

I only missed maybe about 30 seconds total of the fight, and when it did go all screwy I was still able to make out what was going on because it didn't take up the whole screen.

[Shooto Panama]

How in the world am I suppose to know?

Toida is fighting Lion Takeshi.

Tamura is TBA.

[ikari47]

So he's supposed to stand there and get plunked by Mamoru? Urushitani fought a smart fight by not getting hit but still putting in a combination before circling out and taking back the center, and he won based on that. I don't see anything really wrong with it, on top of being impressed with his movement and evasion.

He looked good enough to go out and drink later that evening... which is exactly what he did, actually.:)

[Left Hook]

He suppose to nut up and fight.

[Shooto_fan]

I read it was:

Toida vs Lion
Nakakura vs Endo

Both in November. Also Tamura will be on the card. Am I wrong?

[ikari47]

I read it was:

Toida vs Lion
Nakakura vs Endo

Both in November. Also Tamura will be on the card. Am I wrong?

Yes, and yes, both for Pac Rim titles.

Tamura on the card too, I believe... opponent is not yet decided.

Who's out there to take him, though?

*cough*Pato*cough*

[my sex is artsy]

Yep, 30-30 draw for me, that sucks too, because I had high expectations for this fight.

Too bad Mamoru lost a point for low blows. 30-29 Urushitani wins.

[ikari47]

Too bad Mamoru lost a point for low blows. 30-29 Urushitani wins.

+1 <--That's where Mamoru's lost point went. :)

[ikari47]

BTW, there's also this:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i135/ikari47/IMG_1789.jpg

I was debating on giving Matsune a sign that said "Stop stalking me, Snacks," but I ultimately decided against it. I'm not that much of an asshole, and I figured he would have appreciated this much more.

Anyway...

I hope he's still lurking.

[dragomort]

That is absolutely awesome!

[Shooto Panama]

That is absolutely awesome!

That is absolutely gay.

[ikari47]

That is absolutely gay.

Dude, "gay" is you thinking Resident Evil is better than Halo. :confused:

[Kilroy]

Dude, "gay" is you thinking Resident Evil is better than Halo. :confused:

Resident Evil IS better then Halo.

[ikari47]

Resident Evil IS better then Halo.

Wow. Weaksauce, Kilroy. :(

[Kilroy]

Wow. Weaksauce, Kilroy. :(

FPS on a console, cant deal with it!
Just cant.
It took me forever jsut to be able to play it at all, but damn, I just cant.

My whole brain is synchronized with a mouse and keyboard when I play FPS games.

Also, Resident Evil is way more interesting as far as storylines and shit goes.

Although, to be fair, I've not played either for more then a few hours here and there. :)

[dragomort]

That is absolutely gay.
Oh no you didn't!
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/foo/snipes.jpg

[dragomort]

I love both games :(

[ikari47]

FPS on a console, cant deal with it!
Just cant.
It took me forever jsut to be able to play it at all, but damn, I just cant.

My whole brain is synchronized with a mouse and keyboard when I play FPS games.

Also, Resident Evil is way more interesting as far as storylines and shit goes.

Although, to be fair, I've not played either for more then a few hours here and there. :)

So... just out of curiosity... you've played RE4, right...?:confused:

Sure, it's over the shoulder, but... it's still aiming with the controller and junk.

I love both games:(

Me too actually, but I'm just peeved that Shooto Panama is all like, RE is better, since he's hardly played Halo.

[Kilroy]

So... just out of curiosity... you've played RE4, right...?:confused:

Sure, it's over the shoulder, but... it's still aiming with the controller and junk.

No, I have not. I think RE3 was the last I played.

Yeah, but 3rd person shooters work, FPS just dont.

[Shooto Panama]

I'm just peeved that Shooto Panama is all like, RE is better, since he's hardly played Halo.

I don`t need to play Halo in order to realize RE is better....oh wait..that doesn`t make sense....nevermind.

[dragomort]

RE4 is one of the best games out there, bar none. FPS on the console are fine if you aren't obsessed with point and click action. It's a different feel for sure, but it's not as inferior as the PC elitists make it out to be once you get used to it.

[Kilroy]

RE4 is one of the best games out there, bar none. FPS on the console are fine if you aren't obsessed with point and click action. It's a different feel for sure, but it's not as inferior as the PC elitists make it out to be once you get used to it.

FPS on the console and on the PC are completly different things-.
FPS on console works good but I just prefer the PC version of things when it comes to FPS.

[dragomort]

FPS on the console and on the PC are completly different things-.
FPS on console works good but I just prefer the PC version of things when it comes to FPS.
That's understandable. I like console for multiplayer fun (i.e. Halo) though because everyone is on the same page when it comes to system performance.

[Jack Swagger]

Stick on topic faggots or fuck off.

[dragomort]

Stick on topic faggots or fuck off.
Urushitani and Mamoru fought like zombies from the early Resident Evil series. Meanwhile the decisions in this event overwhelmed our prepared defenses, much like the Flood in the Halo games....

[ikari47]

Wow.

They edited the hell out of my report on Sherdog. I sound like a halting, stuttering 'tard, 'cos they broke up all my sentences into itty-bitty pieces. :(

[my sex is artsy]

Wow.

They edited the hell out of my report on Sherdog. I sound like a halting, stuttering 'tard, 'cos they broke up all my sentences into itty-bitty pieces. :(

Joe Hall KO1 Tony Loiseleur.

[ikari47]

Joe Hall KO1 Tony Loiseleur.

Did he do my Pancrase report too?

He broke that one up all to hell as well. :(

[Phla Les]

What the hell happened in the Osawa fight? He kneed Lima at will and unloaded on his face for 2 full rounds and lost? Lima may have gotten the 3rd, but he did shit... Osawa gets hosed.

LMAO at Sato getting choked out with 1 arm in a sideways guard!

[Jack Swagger]

What the hell happened in the Osawa fight? He kneed Lima at will and unloaded on his face for 2 full rounds and lost? Lima may have gotten the 3rd, but he did shit... Osawa gets hosed.


Haven't had the chance to watch the show yet, can you give some more details on the fight? Like is there anything at all that may have gained Lima some points or was Osawa just straight up jacked by the judges?

[Kilroy]

Hmm, Im pretty sure I gave Lima the decision.

[Phla Les]

Haven't had the chance to watch the show yet, can you give some more details on the fight? Like is there anything at all that may have gained Lima some points or was Osawa just straight up jacked by the judges?

I've only seen it once, but I thought Osawa won CLEAN. He did A LOT more damage. There were exchanges where Lima landed some of his jungle wild blows, but Osawa outworked him in the clinch with like a dozen knees, and landed A LOT of shots clean on his fast, many combos as well. Lima got him down in the 3rd and just held him down. That's really the only round he may have won.

[Phla Les]

I watched it again, and I guess it depends on how you see the 1st round.

Round 1: There were a lot of exchanges here. Lima did land a number of big shots that stunned Osawa. Kenji still landed more shots, and like a dozen quality knees that stunned Lima and allowed him to add a number of punches. IMO Osawa did more damage here and outworked him, but it was fairly close.

Round 2: Easily won by Osawa. By now it's fairly evident that Lima has never heard of this Thai Clinch thing before. Osawa landed a huge number of knees, and many solid punches. Through 2 rounds Lima's head received around 20 knees. Lime really did little in this round outside of getting a takedown in the end but then he was just hanging on for dear life.

Round 3: Minor exchange, both guys land a little. Lima ends up getting Kenji on the ground. He's in half guard, he passes to side mount, Kenji give up his back, Lima forces him back to side mount. Kenji gives up his back again. Lima tries to go for reverse kimura...but never really even got anything at all. He lands some love taps throughout the course of the round. Lima wins this round, but again, just keeping Osawa down and doing nothing.

It's closer than I 1st thought, but Osawa still deserved this match IMO. On top of everything, Lima kicked Osawa in the balls, kneed him in the head when he was down, and came out to the music of Kanye West. That latter alone should have cost him a point.

[ikari47]

Yeah, it was close. I think maybe all three of the judges felt that the last round went to Lima for getting top control on Osawa, who really seemed too tired to find a way out from under. The second probably went to Osawa on all three cards, meaning that the first went to Lima as well.

It *was* a close split decision, after all. 29 - 28 X 2 for Lima, and a 29 - 28 for Osawa.

EDIT: Personally, I think Osawa was much slicker on the feet. It was just Lima's wild punches from the bleachers and his Belfort-style machine gun punches that won him the first round. For that matter, had Osawa slipped them and not wanted to brawl in the face of that much opposition, he would have surely won instead of, well, getting tagged a whole bunch.

[derubermensch]

Just to clear something up, its Toida/Lion to decide Tamura's next challenger.

[Goiden]

Just to clear something up, its Toida/Lion to decide Tamura's next challenger.


Why the fuck isn't Carvalho in the mix? He just decisioned Hioki. Maybe not totally convincingly, but he at least officially beat him nevertheless. Wtf has Toida done recently? And Lion just lost the title.

[ikari47]

Just to clear something up, its Toida/Lion to decide Tamura's next challenger.

Boo. Fucking BOO on Sustain. :mad:

[Jack Swagger]

I thought that was some kind of insider joke that outsiders didn't get. Is Toida seriously in a #1 contenders match? Obviously they are desperate to get the strap back around Lion's waste.

[Tokyudo]

Wow.

They edited the hell out of my report on Sherdog. I sound like a halting, stuttering 'tard, 'cos they broke up all my sentences into itty-bitty pieces. :(


Welcome to AP format buddy :)

It's annoying...

[Phla Les]

I thought that was some kind of insider joke that outsiders didn't get. Is Toida seriously in a #1 contenders match? Obviously they are desperate to get the strap back around Lion's waste.


It'd be hysterical to see Toida fuck things up (again). Toida and Tamura would probably be the least desired title fight in MMA history.

[ikari47]

Welcome to AP format buddy :)

It's annoying...

Tell me about it! :mad:

Anyway, talked to Josh about it, and he said he'd try to talk to Joe for me on my behalf.

We're not exactly AP, so there may be hope for me still!

It'd be hysterical to see Toida fuck things up (again). Toida and Tamura would probably be the least desired title fight in MMA history.

In which case, they should just cut their losses and give the title bout to someone else, maybe...?

Just a suggestion! :p

[Tokyudo]

In which case, they should just cut their losses and give the title bout to someone else, maybe...?

Just a suggestion! :p


Coming to a P4P beard near you! :D

[ikari47]

Coming to a P4P beard near you! :D

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i135/ikari47/Fearthebeard.jpg

ZOMFGLOLBBQ!

[EndlessFighter]

I'll probably get negged for this but I love Toida.He definately doesn't deserve a #1 contenders match,but he's tight.

[Phla Les]

I'll probably get negged for this but I love Toida.He definately doesn't deserve a #1 contenders match,but he's tight.

Not many things out there tighter than this...

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/fightfinder/Pictures/katsuyatoida.jpg

[derubermensch]

The only time I've ever found myself wooting for Toida in the history of Shooto is his genius "Don't die" strategy against Fujimiya.

[Mr. Blue]

Am I the only one who loses faith in Shooto everytime Kadowaki hits his fatality?

[derubermensch]

Am I the only one who loses faith in Shooto everytime Kadowaki hits his fatality?

Is his career really that colored by upsets? I think his victory here is yet another reason to lose faith in good ol' Moon Wolf than Shooto as a whole.

[Mr. Blue]

Is his career really that colored by upsets? I think his victory here is yet another reason to lose faith in good ol' Moon Wolf than Shooto as a whole.

I meant that I lose faith in the quality of grappling in Shooto everytime someone gets suckered by that move.

[derubermensch]

I meant that I lose faith in the quality of grappling in Shooto everytime someone gets suckered by that move.

Gotcha

[derubermensch]

Wow, Mamoru looked slow out there and what was up with Lima winning?

[ghost01]

Wow, Mamoru looked slow out there and what was up with Lima winning?

Osawa looked good but lima won.