UFC 77:PRELIMINARY SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

[dy-no-mite3000]

Welcome to BK's Preliminary bout discussion thread.
***DO NOT DISCUSS THE PRELIMINARY BOUTS WITHIN THE LIVE PPV DISCUSSION THREAD***

Prelims start tonight @ ~8:15 edt.

-Yushin Okami vs. Jason MacDonald
-Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz
-Jason Black vs. Matt Grice
-Demian Maia vs. Ryan Jensen

[Bishop]

this sucker's about to kick off....so, let's keep it clean and fun

[Chivo]

Present and ready to rock!

[Left Hook]

After all that bitching and moaning I am getting this show. Lets hope Okami and MacDonald makes the show somehow.

[Chivo]

I hope Jason gets bashed for his comments about Okami being boring. >:

[Randjob]

He's gonna get his face mashed in. Is there anyway you can watch prelims?

[Bishop]

yes, tomorrow when they are up on ufc ondemand :)

Okami will not be bashing any face in with pillow fists

[Chivo]

Round 1
Grice came out aggressive and threw Black to the canvas. Black then went from a Kimura from his back, but Grice was able to clear his opponent's guard to escape the hold. Near the end of the round, Black again went for a Kimura from the bottom, and had it deep with a closed-guard as times expired. The first frame went to Black on the Sherdog.com score card, 10-9.

[Bishop]

mmaweekly's pbp

Jason Black vs. Matt Grice
R1 – Grice got a takedown early and worked to pass guard, but Black was active as well, attempting several submissions including a couple of Kimura’s and an armbar. Grice defended the attempts well though, scored several takedowns throughout the round and was very busy working from Black’s guard. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Grice.

[Chivo]

Round 2
Excellent action in the second stanza. Grice came out and busted Black with a left hand that sent him crashing to the canvas. Grice pounced and blasted away with strikes from the top, nearly finishing the fight. Black then rolled Grice over and slapped on a triangle-choke from the top position, and the returned the favor with vicious punches to the head of Grice. The referee easily could have stepped in but he let the round close with Black teeing off. Sherdog.com sees the frame 10-10.

[Bishop]

R2 – Grice dropped Black on his face at the opening. He followed Black down immediately, but couldn’t finish him. Out of nowhere, Black landed a triangle choke, but Grice got up out of it. Then Black nearly secured a Kimura. Grice rolled over and Black mounted and rained down blow near the end of the round; another close round in a phenomenal fight. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Black.

[Chivo]

I always love the diffrence in PbP opinions.

[Bishop]

we're missing one hot fight :(

^ that's why it's always good to have a second opinion

[Chivo]

Oh I completely agree. We would all call it different in a good close fight like this one seems to be.

[Left Hook]

Hot fight. Please, I haven't even read about a footstomp yet...

[Bishop]

it especially helps for fights that none of us are watching

Hot fight. Please, I haven't even read about a footstomp yet...
Mir's got the night off

[Chivo]

I am now out of Tequila, tonight is going to be a bit rough...

[machinemg]

Grice shouldn't lose this fight, but I've always felt he hasn't been taking advantage of some training opportunities that could enhance his sub defense.

[Bishop]

there's no way vagina-abs can win this fight :mad:

[Left Hook]

I am now out of Tequila, tonight is going to be a bit rough...

Would that be because you drank it all tonight?

[Chivo]

Would that be because you drank it all tonight?

Uh, yeah. And I'll still out spell Z A C H E R :p

[Chivo]

Round 3
Grice started the third with a decent punch that backed Black up. Grice then dropped levels for a takedown, but Black immediately jumped to guard with a guillotine choke. Grice escaped and controlled his opponent for the duration of the bout from the top. Black had nothing in the third. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Black. The judges see it 29-28 for Black, 29-28 for Grice, and 28-28. The bout is ruled a draw.

[Bishop]

R3 – Grice dominated the third round taking Black down and staying very busy ground and pounding him throughout the majority of the round, defending anything that Black attempted. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Grice.

Matt Grice def. Jason Black by Majority Draw (29-28 Grice, 29-28 Black, 28-28)

haha, Grice beat Black by draw :)

[Chivo]

HAHA nice.

[dy-no-mite3000]

wait.. what? I am confused how did grice win if it was amajority draw?
Yeah Im fucking stoned rotten right now on some sick white widdow. so sue me. bonged.

[Bishop]

so far, everybody got a nice goose-egg on the pick'ems

wait.. what? I am confused how did grice win if it was amajority draw?
because he was .2 ounces lighter

[Oliver Klosov]

Hot fight. Please, I haven't even read about a footstomp yet...

fucking A right.

[Oliver Klosov]

R3 ? Grice dominated the third round taking Black down and staying very busy ground and pounding him throughout the majority of the round, defending anything that Black attempted. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Grice.

Matt Grice def. Jason Black by Majority Draw (29-28 Grice, 29-28 Black, 28-28)

haha, Grice beat Black by draw :)

except that's not a Majority Draw, you dumb ass.

[Bishop]

except that's not a Majority Draw, you dumb ass.
mmaweekly....dumbass!

learn to read

[Chivo]

HAHAHA nicer...

[Left Hook]

Yes, finally a draw that doesn't require some insane scoring.

[Left Hook]

mmaweekly....dumbass!

learn to read

He wasn't calling you a dumbass, but mmaweekly.

Learn to read. :p

[Bishop]

ok, now it says that Grice won via split JD

[Left Hook]

ok, now it says that Grice won via split JD

Actually Mir did show up, footstomped the roof into disrepair and took the majority decision.

[Chivo]

HAHAHA nicest!

1 a piece = somebody won more rounds...

[Bishop]

He wasn't calling you a dumbass, but mmaweekly.

Learn to read. :p
except that's not a Majority Draw, you dumb ass.
somebody needs to take their own advice

pwnt

[Bishop]

The initial decision in this fight was announced as a majority draw. But after reviewing the scorecards and recalculating, it was determined that Grice was actually ahead on two of the three cards and Black on the third. The final determination, a split decision victory for Matt Grice.

Matt Grice def. Jason Black by Split Decision (29-28, 29-28 Grice; 29-28 Black)

^ sounds like Serra/Din from UFC 41....oopsie me, I forgot to tally :rolleyes: where do they find these judges? :mad:

[swope]

cecil peoples detected.

[Chivo]

MMAweekly was calling you a dumbass, dumbass!

[Chivo]

Yes, finally a draw that doesn't require some insane scoring.

pwnt

[Tokyudo]

Yeah, you guys caught a typo in between updates on MMAWeekly :)

Grice did win by Split Decision.

[Oliver Klosov]

mmaweekly....dumbass!

learn to read


Learn to edit ... dumbass!!

[Left Hook]

somebody needs to take their own advice

pwnt

How do you know that you are the you he was speaking of?

[Chivo]

And the dog is still calling it a split draw.

[Bishop]

Yeah, you guys caught a typo in between updates on MMAWeekly :)

Grice did win by Split Decision.
we know/knew

[Left Hook]

pwnt

:mad:

[dy-no-mite3000]

thats some funny ass shit.

[Bishop]

Learn to edit ... dumbass!!
<--- copy + pasted from mmaweekly

now, read tokyudo's post and you'll understand

*shuts door*

[Left Hook]

On a slight side note. I was watching UFC Wired (Randy is still in the opening) and they are showing Clay vs. Tyson and Diego vs. Karo. Nice little warm up for the PPV if you ask me.

[Bishop]

R1 – Burkman got three big takedowns in the round and had a guillotine sunk in for nearly 45 seconds, but Petz was able to get out, however, he was unable to mount much offense. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Burkman.

[Chivo]

Round 1
Burkman clinched to start the bout and tripped Petz to the floor. Petz then used the cage to work to his feet, but Burkman locked in a guillotine choke. Petz escaped after roughly a minute, and fell victim to another Burkman takedown. 10-9 for Josh Burkman.

[Bishop]

sounds exciting

great the dish network screen with the muzak

R2 ? The entire round was spent standing with Burkman looking really tired and his hands down. They exchanged blows throughout the round with Petz getting the better of the majority of the exchanges and Burkman just looking very tired. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Petz.

[Chivo]

Round 2
Burkman started strong again in the second, but it was Petz who took control. After shaking off a Burkman takedown attempt, Petz absolutely teed off for the rest of the frame with strikes from several angles. Digging shots to the body, sharp work to the head and the occasional knee from the clinch secures the round for Petz on the Sherdog card, 10-9.

[machinemg]

Important win for Grice.

[Bishop]

Burkman gassed? how is that possible?

[Left Hook]

Hopefully Anderson isn't effected by the Visa problems and kills Rich quick so we can see a few of these fights.

[Bishop]

Important win for Grice.
big loss for Black. 2 losses to 2 unknown fighters (Tavares at the time) for a fighter who's been around the world padding his record

[Left Hook]

Burkman gassed? how is that possible?

High fructose corn syrup?

[Bishop]

I guess being the "People's Warrior" takes alot out of you. he is literally carrying "the people" on his back

[Chivo]

Round 3
Petz controlled most of the final round with punches from the outside before he was dropped with a left hook near the three minute mark. Burkman then went for a guillotine and finished the round strong with strikes from the top position. Sherdog.com gives the frame to Burkman, 10-9. Two judges agree, with scores of 29-28 for Josh Burkman. Another saw it 29-28 for Petz.

[Oliver Klosov]

<--- copy + pasted from mmaweekly

now, read tokyudo's post and you'll understand

*shuts door*

way to run and hide, you big baby.

*points and laughs*

[Chivo]

So as of right now, Josh won by High Performance Helicopter?

[Left Hook]

Petz choked. Sad.

[Bishop]

2 fights, 2 splits....balanced fights tonight

way to run and hide, you big baby.

*points and laughs*
finger pointing and laughter cannot penetrate my screen door

Petz choked. Sad.
Petz choked? He was the underdog....and got dropped in the 3rd, something that isn't easy to overcome with time running out.

[Left Hook]

Yeah but it sounds like he had a gassed Burkman and was handling him well. Until he got himself decked.

[machinemg]

Petz choked. Sad.

Huh?

[Bishop]

R3 – The round started off with the fighters trading blows. Late in the round, Burkman dropped Petz with a punch and followed him down. Burkman went for a guillotine choke, turning Petz into his guard, but Petz defended and ended the round inside of Burkman’s guard. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Burkman.

you wanna talk about choking, we can always go back to UFC 73

oh, by the way, YOUR defending UFC pick'em champ has 8 points :)

[Left Hook]

Well Chivo made it sound like he was in control and then got himself smacked. :mad:

[Bishop]

Well Chivo made it sound like he was in control and then got himself smacked. :mad:
no, sherdog did

I wonder, does Anderson ever take off his fighting trunks? are they his shower trunks? bbq'ing trunks? running trunks? swimming trunks?

[Chivo]

Chivo = crtl-c and ctrl-v

[Left Hook]

That's what I meant....

[Chivo]

Round 1
Maia quickly took the action to the canvas with a low single-leg takedown. Off a scramble, Maia took Jensen's back and secured both hooks. Jensen fought to avoid a choke for about 90 seconds, but Maia sunk his arm under Jensen's neck and forced a tapout at 2:40 with a rear-naked choke.

[Bishop]

Demian Maia vs. Ryan Jensen
R1 – Maia took the fight down right away and worked consistently from Jensen’s guard, trying to pass. Jensen tried to reverse, but gave up his back. Maia immediately went for a rear naked choke. Jensen tried to defend, but succumbed to the aggressive jiu-jitsu style of Maia.

Demian Maia def. Ryan Jensen by Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 2:40, R1

well damn, thought Jensen could pull this out via JD

[Left Hook]

Jensen pwned.

[Chivo]

I am hoping Rogan ask questions in the post fight interviews like, "Have you ever been to a Turkish prison? "

[Bishop]

one pre-lim to go and it's the fight that was relegated to the undercard so we can get Mr. Awesome Jorge Gurgel on PPV for the hometown crowd :rolleyes:

I can feel Okami walking to the ring right now

[Chivo]

Okami wins by pillow-fist TKO at 0:13 of the very first round.

[Bishop]

Okami wins by pillow-fist TKO at 0:13 of the very first round.
sounds like a toe stomp set-up

[Left Hook]

Okami wins by pillow-fist TKO at 0:13 of the very first round.

pwnt.

[Bishop]

this is the longest 5-minutes....nut punt?

[Oliver Klosov]

from Olliesnotwatching.net -

Black won via explosive footstomps at :48 of rnd 1

[Bishop]

R1 – The two fighters danced around quite a bit and worked from the clinch without much action. Each fighter threw a few shots throughout the round, Okami being a little more effective, but neither did any damage or mounted a significant offense. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Okami.

classic Okami :)

[ilostmydog]

R3 ? The round started off with the fighters trading blows. Late in the round, Burkman dropped Petz with a punch and followed him down. Burkman went for a guillotine choke, turning Petz into his guard, but Petz defended and ended the round inside of Burkman?s guard. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Burkman.

you wanna talk about choking, we can always go back to UFC 73

oh, by the way, YOUR defending UFC pick'em champ has 8 points :)

Listen, I am 2 x K-1 Champ and also I do have 8 points.

[ilostmydog]

R1 ? The two fighters danced around quite a bit and worked from the clinch without much action. Each fighter threw a few shots throughout the round, Okami being a little more effective, but neither did any damage or mounted a significant offense. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Okami.

classic Okami :)

J-Mac's a liar. He said he would throw Okami off his game by pushing the pace. What a liar.

[Chivo]

Round 1
MacDonald tried early to take the fight to the floor, but Okami defended well and pawed away with a jab. With a minute left in the frame, Okami turned it up and scored with left hooks and a crisp combo. Sherdog.com sees it 10-9 for Okami.

[Chivo]

I am really hoping for Gurgel to get his shit pushed in. That Franklin connection can only last so long dammit.

[Bishop]

here's the punch stat's for round 1

Okami - 3 out of 5
MacDonald - 2 out of 4

[Chivo]

Sounds like Sanchez/Koscheck...

[Bishop]

Shamrock/Severn II, eat your heart out

[Chivo]

Round 2
Both fighters traded punches with nothing solid landing in the second round's opening minute. Okami defended the takedown and continued to strike lightly. Okami then tripped MacDonald to the mat, where he stood up in his opponent's guard and hammered away with heavy punches. MacDonald picked the ankle from below, but Okami recovered and retook the top. 10-9 for Okami.

[Bishop]

R2 – Okami seemed to wake up and dominated the round, starting it off with effective striking on the feet. He then took MacDonald down and punished him with an aggressive ground and pound attack for the rest of the round, not quite able to finish him off. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Okami.

well, there goes my pick'em run....had Okami via TKO round 2

[Chivo]

Round 3
More of the same in the third. Okami controlled from beginning to end, and saw dominant positions in the third such as mount, side-control and back-mount. MacDonald defended well but offered nothing in terms of offense. All three judges see the bout 30-27 for Yushin Okami.

[Chivo]

Bingo!

[Bishop]

Okami again dominated the round. MacDonald failed to take Okami down before getting taken down himself. He then gave up his back to Okami, who went for the rear naked choke, but didn’t get it. Okami finished out the round, grounding and pounding MacDonald. MMAWeekly scores the round 10-9 for Okami.

Yushin Okami def. Jason MacDonald by Unanimous Decision, R3

ok, so if Anderson wins, we'll get the fight we all want

[ilostmydog]

Okami bitches.

12 points!

[Left Hook]

OKAMI!!!! Still my man.

[Chivo]

Jason needs to stick to fighting TUF also-rans.

[machinemg]

Sounds like that was a real thriller.