UFN 15 9/17 - Neer/Diaz, Lauzon/Bradley, Herman/Belcher

[dragomort]

Just announced

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6677&zoneid=13

- UFC ANNOUNCES FIGHT NIGHT IN OMAHA, NEBRASKA
Saturday, July 12, 2008 - by MMAWeekly.com Staff


Early Saturday morning, the Ultimate Fighting Championship confirmed what has long been rumored, the promotion is set to make it’s debut in the Cornhusker State. The UFC will make its first stop ever in Nebraska on September 17 at the Omaha Civic Auditorium in Omaha.

In announcing that UFC Fight Club presale tickets will be available Wednesday, July 16, starting at $35, the promotion confirmed the UFC Fight Night event on Spike TV.

Although no bouts have yet been announced, the rumor mill has generated a lengthy list of probably fights for Omaha, including:

-Josh Neer vs. Nate Diaz
-Mac Danzig vs. Clay Guida
-Joe Lauzon vs. Kyle Bradley
-Houston Alexander vs. Eric Schafer
-Ed Herman vs. Alan Belcher
-Tamden McCrory vs. Luke Cummo

[Oliver Klosov]

GUIDA! GUIDA! GUIDA!

[Marshal G.K. Zhukov]

Nice little card. Houston is getting submitted though.

[Donut62]

Danzig vs Guida makes me fwap oh so hard.

[Acefrank]

diaz is in a world of hurt

[Tokyudo]

I'll be covering this one, woot! Only a 4 hour drive.

[Nova]

That should be a fun card.

Anyone else notice that Eric Schafer's nickname is listed on UFC.com as:

"Ravishing Red"

That's um... that's pretty good and stuff. Pretty good nickname. Yeah.

Will Houston be able to assassinate the ravishing red?

[S.R.]

Nate Diaz will dominate and get some kind of sick sub because that's what the Diaz Bro's do. Then he'll flip off the camera in the post-fight and flash some gang signs. The gangbanging brown belt will prevail.

Guida's going to give Danzig flashbacks of Mach. Danzig is going to be asking Dana if he has any spots down in the WEC. Guida's going to club him then drag him back to his fucking cave and have his way with him until we (meaning humans with opposable thumbs) get here.

Ravishing Red isn't going to sub Houston because when it gets to the ground Schafer will be unconscious and Houston will be standing over him with his wallet and his UFC stock options for when the company goes public. His Wiki says he gave up a job of trading on Wall Street to ultimate fight. Did one of you guys do that?

Herman Vs Belcher is going to be AWESOME. I hate TUF, but this is really good matchmaking by Joe Silva. This will be action packed. I'm hoping the redheads go 0-3. Go Belcher!

[FRANKIE]

Yeah, fuck Herman for reals. I can't stand that fucking guy. Total Gresham trailer trash. Maybe even Clackamas.

[Bishop]

Anyone else notice that Eric Schafer's nickname is listed on UFC.com as:

"Ravishing Red"

That's um... that's pretty good and stuff. Pretty good nickname. Yeah.

Welcome to 2006

[kcb]

Hopefully Alan gets back on track with an exciting win over Herman.

[Merlin]

That should be a fun card.

Anyone else notice that Eric Schafer's nickname is listed on UFC.com as:

"Ravishing Red"

That's um... that's pretty good and stuff. Pretty good nickname. Yeah.

Will Houston be able to assassinate the ravishing red?

Anyone else notice that Josh Neer's nickname is 'the Dentist'? I wonder if he's really a dentist!! OMGLOL!

[Johnny Toetags]

picks:

Neer,
Danzig,
Lauzon,
Schafer,
Herman,
whichever one it is that doesn't drink his own piss.

[36thDisciple]

Omaha, Nebraska huh. I don't know a damn thing about Nebraska except that they breed them Midwest corn-fed boys big out there and they like to wrestle. MMA scene any good?

And didn't Kyle Bradley already get his ass kicked twice, badly?

[Donut62]

Guida's going to give Danzig flashbacks of Mach.

Right, because Guida has devastating kickboxing skills and will pwn his legs?:confused:

[S.R.]

picks:

Neer,
Danzig,
Lauzon,
Schafer,
Herman,


Aside from Lauzon, my picks are the complete opposite. Wanna be my board nemesis? (no homo)

[36thDisciple]

Some of you are actually picking Neer over Diaz?

[kcb]

Some of you are actually picking Neer over Diaz?

Racism, afaik.

[Kilroy]

Neer is looking great at 155 there days, I think its a tough fight for Diaz...

[Merlin]

I'd find it hard to pick Schafer over Alexander after watching him get mauled by Bisping and Bonnar. He seems to come into fights thinking it's a grappling match and forgets that the other guy can punch him in the face.

[Left Hook]

We are talking about the Diaz that can actually fight...

[Mia]

Right, because Guida has devastating kickboxing skills and will pwn his legs?:confused:

Man, I hope Guida dies.

[Bird]

No, he will make it look so easy a caveman can do it.

[5acrossYOeye]

nate will sub neer.
danzig will beat guida....easier than anyone has.
houston will tap
Lauzon will win.

[Bird]

Except for Clay, co sign

[5acrossYOeye]

Except for Clay, co sign

talk to me...i think danzig's wrestling is below guida's. other than that i give the rest of the edges to danzig.

I think this is the fight danzig makes a serious statement.

[Left Hook]

Danzig has no serious statement. First I think Guida is probably a bit bigger then him and secondly Clay is just far more talented.

[5acrossYOeye]

Danzig has no serious statement. First I think Guida is probably a bit bigger then him and secondly Clay is just far more talented.

more talented where besides wrestling?

[Left Hook]

In MMA. You know, the sport they will be contesting in?

[5acrossYOeye]

In MMA. You know, the sport they will be contesting in?

sweet breakdown

okay i'll do it then

standing. mac

BJJ: mac

Wrestling: guida - i think this is closer than most think.

chin: guida i think...not so sure here.

endurance: draw. both have proven they can fight full competitive 3 round fights. you could even give the edge to guida for going five close rounds with a top guy but since its going 3 im not giving that one up.

resume: guida has fought the better comp and he's fought them to close decisions. Mac has a few world level names but no wins of note though i think this is the begining of his run to the top 5. not worried about the size difference since mac has fought at 170. that expierence will help him here.

mac's move to vegas in the end will be one of the smartest things he's done for his career.

[Left Hook]

No need to breakdown this fight. It isn't that hard.

[Bird]

talk to me...i think danzig's wrestling is below guida's. other than that i give the rest of the edges to danzig.

I think this is the fight danzig makes a serious statement.

I hear you but that's what I'm thinking, Clay needs this, It's a statement fight no doubt for both of them.

[Left Hook]

I like Danzig but what exactly has he done that makes anyone think he can hang with Guida?

[5acrossYOeye]

Bird's right, at this particular time in their careers they both need this fight. Too bad because I'm a fan of both.

I can see what you guys are saying...mac really hasn't beaten anyone at 55 that makes you double take.

What I see is a guy (mac) who IMO is more well rounded than guida. also I think the timing for the Guida fight couldn't be more right for Mac.

Mac moved to extreme couture where his training partners are some of the best wrestling training partners for a 155er in the UFC. His JJ is slick and his striking is pretty good. IMO his pretty good is still better than Guida's.

I truly think this is where mac makes the move. Guida is a monster for anyone but I think we've seen enough of Guida to where we know what to expect. This isn't true for Mac as I see him as one who is getting better everytime i watch him fight....especially his JJ.

i think mac has more ways to win than guida....probably wish i just said that huh.

[Left Hook]

Mac may very well be more well rounded, but where it matters here, he isn't going to do much to Guida. He will be outwrestled and out scrambled as Guida just outworks him. I guess he could catch him but I doubt it.

[dragomort]

Mac may very well be more well rounded, but where it matters here, he isn't going to do much to Guida. He will be outwrestled and out scrambled as Guida just outworks him. I guess he could catch him but I doubt it.

Yet Clay 'Judge-Bane' Guida will still lose a decision. I like Guida, but you can't forget his most obvious aspect of completely mind-screwing the judges in one way or another, so unless he finishes him you might want to account for this wild-card. Both have the base skills to give the other problems and have willpower to spare, so I don't see it ending before the decision 4/5 times. It'll just be interesting to see what happens.

[Left Hook]

That is true, but I am hoping for not so dumb judges.

[Anton Chigurh]

Guida's going to embarrass/expose Danzig with superhuman wrestling, and El Rojo will hopefully put Alexander out of the UFC with a quick sub.

[HogRock]

Danzig is not on Guida's level. The fighter that beat Aurelio and fought Griffin and Huerta to a standstill is going to be too much for Danzig. Mac has good hands and I have little doubt that he can catch Guida, but this should be a one sided affair in Guida's favor.

[Kilroy]

Wow, Danzig doesnt get much love.
I think its a really interesting fight and I wouldn't write Mac off that easy...

[Zigga-Zagga]

Man, I hope Guida dies.

:mad:

While the Angry Vegan does have more ways to win, I feel that the Really Angry Red Meat Eater will just out-work him. Danzig isn't that much of a pace-fighter, while Guida just goes head on all the time. I see Guida pressing on and taking Danzig down repeatedly, but it'll be interesting to see if he'll over commit and get subbed for his troubles.

A good test for both, can Guida stay composed and can Danzig handle the pressure.

Schafer should really sub Houston. With Alexander you know 101% what's coming up. Straight walk-in-punch-salvos with some wrestling there, but once taken down no game at all. If Schafer isn't right now training just defence, tying up and duck-unders, he needs a new fucking team.

Herman-Belcher is fun, and hopefully Herman will lose... But I dunno about it. Ed is equally sloppy as Grove, but see what happened there? A smart fight from Belcher, keeping the fight standing and chopping away on the infinite openings shitty-Ed will give... That would be great. Not rushing away and getting taken down.

I'd opt to pick Neer. Not because Diaz at this point is so much of a one trick pony that he needs to get his ass beaten to realize small things as weight lifting, but because Mia won't like it.

[36thDisciple]

IMO Danzig is a better fighter than Guida.

[Randjob]

Wow, Danzig doesnt get much love.
I think its a really interesting fight and I wouldn't write Mac off that easy...

I like Mac, but I think he has no chance in this fight. Guida is a FAR superior wrestler and I think he'll be pretty successful at taking Mac down and keeping him there. Add that in with the fact that he's coming off the loss to Huerta, I expect him to come in like the lunatic that he is and really put it to Danzig

[5acrossYOeye]

Danzig is not on Guida's level. The fighter that beat Aurelio and fought Griffin and Huerta to a standstill is going to be too much for Danzig. Mac has good hands and I have little doubt that he can catch Guida, but this should be a one sided affair in Guida's favor.

gave melendez the fight of his life

beat josh thomson...guida is very very good. a hustler of sorts. Like Left Hook said Guida is one of the best in scrambles.

The only thing is after the hustling and scrambling he isn't putting anyone away. To me this is what will cost him and will enable Mac to find a way to end the fight. I'm guessing a choke.

[Left Hook]

That is true. Guida for all he does right, even when he has someone out on their ass (Huerta), he seems almost incapable of finishing. Which is always going to be a problem if he gets even the slighest bit tired.

[5acrossYOeye]

That is true. Guida for all he does right, even when he has someone out on their ass (Huerta), he seems almost incapable of finishing. Which is always going to be a problem if he gets even the slighest bit tired.

that guy can't spell tired....all you guys did is convince me that im fucking nuts for calling this Mac's big night. I'm gonna stick with it but I'm sure I'll eat it down the road.

[Left Hook]

He was tired against Huerta.

[dragomort]

that guy can't spell tired....all you guys did is convince me that im fucking nuts for calling this Mac's big night. I'm gonna stick with it but I'm sure I'll eat it down the road.

Stick to your guns. Makes it more satisfying when you get it right when everyone else is against you ;) ....as long as you don't keep getting it wrong too much :p

[Bishop]

Danzig has the better skill set. Guida is "shoot-shoot-work-work".

But Guida needs this fight bad....like against Huerta, I'll take Guida by JD

[Acefrank]

Mac took down Tommy, a great wrestler and a big 170 pounder to win TUF , I dont see any problem taking down Guida

[Bishop]

Mac took down Tommy, a great wrestler and a big 170 pounder to win TUF , I dont see any problem taking down Guida
Guida is a work horse, which is the one thing he's got going for him. Tommy....meh

[Zigga-Zagga]

Yeah, and like said, Guida scrambles like a mothafuck. He may get caught on those scrambles, but if not he'll most likely be getting up a lot and making Danzig work.

What's the oppinions on Mac's gas tank?

[Left Hook]

I thought I said that...

As to the gas tank, it seems good until you beat him up. We really haven't seen him tested like this. Mach just beat his ass.

[Bishop]

He seemed a little worked from Bocek, but again, when you're getting hit, it takes alot out of you.

He'll be gassing mid-way through the second (if it goes that far for either fighter) with Guida's constant pressure

[Zigga-Zagga]

So we need a gritty nasty Guida all the time on the inside, all the time trying to get strikes in, going for takedowns and scrabling upon being taken down...

...and avoiding a plethora of subs in the process?

[Left Hook]

He has handled much more talented ground fighters.

[Uru]

Jeremy Horn vs. Wilson Gouveia (http://mmajunkie.com/news/4827/jeremy-horn-vs-wilson-gouveia-added-to-ufc-fight-night-15.mma) is added to this event.

[Kilroy]

At 205 or 185?

[Kilroy]

I would guess 185, Wilson always looked small for LHW...

[36thDisciple]

Horn is still in the UFC? Man the management must have love for vets, because he's looked like garbage for two years or more now.

[S.R.]

Leites Vs Lister is on this card. Wake me when it's over.

UFC's 185 division is laughable.

[PolishTopTeam]

I find it laughable that you consistently bash everything about the UFC even though they clearly have the best roster of any organization. I do understand that the way Dana carries himself rubs people the wrong way, and he surely has some shortcomings. However, would you mind telling me who has a better middleweight division? I actually think the division is on the verge of being pretty damn good. They have a dominant champion, several established top ten fighters, and a slew of quality prospects that could be legit challengers with another win or two.

[S.R.]

Oh, my bad. I take it back. UFC's 185 division is awesome. Patrick Cote is a true #1 contender.

Get outta here. I bash what needs to be bashed and UFC's 185 division needs to be bashed.

Would you rather me lie so I don't offend you? UFC nor any org is above criticism. Rest assured, if you wanna bash any non-Zuffa org, I won't be upset like you.

[PolishTopTeam]

I have no problem with criticism it just seems to me that you overlook the good things, and in my opinion they far outweigh the bad. I for one hope organizations like Affliction, EliteXC, and Dream thrive because I can't get enough MMA.

I also don't think that Cote deserves a title shot at this point but, should they put Silva on the shelf while Okami heals his hand. I think the main issue at 185 is Silva has destroyed most of the top guys already and the division has always been one of the thinnest world wide.

[Merlin]

You'll have to excuse S.R.
He's an ultra-hardcore, "real" MMA fan, and has no time for things that are considered too mainstream. He watches his MMA events by himself so as not to be bothered with others that could never know what he knows about the sport. He's better than most of us at all things MMA.

[Rumbin]

I kinda like Leites so I dunno what the hate is. Sure Lister is as boring as watching grass grow but this should be a fun chess game

[36thDisciple]

Isn't Lister a step backwards for Leites?

[Chivo]

I don't think it is so much Dean is boring as it is he has no stand up power making the fights... I guess, boring. Hmm, maybe he is boring. :(

But I still like the transitions he has. I still have hope for him.

[Merlin]

I was on Lister's side after the quick and easy sub over Sakara, but since then we've learned that Sakara sucks, despite all the hype, and Lister has been mediocre at best.

[Merlin]

Isn't Lister a step backwards for Leites?

Since Leites just beat Marquardt (shady and undeserved as it was), and Marquardt beat Horn not too long ago, who Lister also beat, then yes, this is a step back for Leites.

[dragomort]

Isn't Lister a step backwards for Leites?

Perhaps, but it gives him a notch on his belt for his title shot rather than going into it after his 'win' over Marquardt.

[S.R.]

Leites should have had to rematch Marquardt, but when Joe Silva presented him with the opportunity, he screamed, "Oh, god! NO! Please don't make me do that again! OH GOD! I WON'T SURVIVE!!! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET ME LIVE!!" then he went and hid behind Dana while Joe Silva just shook his head.

Dean Lister is the perfect match for someone who doesn't want to get hurt, but wants to get credit for beating a name opponent.

[PolishTopTeam]

If Leites was afraid of getting hurt wouldn't he have just stayed down after the huge illegal knee and taken the cheap win. While I agree that Nate would win in a rematch, Thales has never given any indication that he's a quitter. He took some huge damage in the Marquardt fight and the last two rounds of the fight with Kampmann and he just kept coming forward.

[dragomort]

Leites should have had to rematch Marquardt, but when Joe Silva presented him with the opportunity, he screamed, "Oh, god! NO! Please don't make me do that again! OH GOD! I WON'T SURVIVE!!! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET ME LIVE!!" then he went and hid behind Dana while Joe Silva just shook his head.

Dean Lister is the perfect match for someone who doesn't want to get hurt, but wants to get credit for beating a name opponent.

I don't think I'd be wanting to rush into a rematch with someone who fouled me a half dozen times in the first fight either.

[Mia]

Leites Vs Lister is on this card. Wake me when it's over.

UFC's 185 division is laughable.

I used to like you as a poster.

You won't have to be wakened. Leites is gonna kick Horn's ass.....duh.

[heckyl]

I used to like you as a poster.

You won't have to be wakened. Leites is gonna kick Horn's ass.....duh.

why would he do such a thing like that? he said he is fighting Dean Lister. there is no need to get into a fight with Horn after his actual signed fight!

[S.R.]

If Leites was afraid of getting hurt wouldn't he have just stayed down after the huge illegal knee and taken the cheap win.

No, because Leites himself said he thought he'd lose if he said he couldn't continue and that's why he continued. If he knew it was have been a win for him, he would have said he couldn't continue.

When the referee stopped it and he was asking me, "Do you want to fight?" In my mind I was thinking, if I say no, the ref is going to stop the fight and give a victory to Nate and so every time I would look at the referee and say "No, I want to fight, I'm 100%", but I wasn't. As everybody could see that I wasn't 100% but I was saying every time, "I'm OK, I'm OK" because I didn't know what happened. I didn't see the illegal knee. I knew he did it, but I didn't see the illegal knee. I was a little bit out at that moment.

...

Franz: Would you take a rematch?

Thales Leites: I don't think so. He did a lot of illegal things to me. In my opinion it was his obligation to knock me out in the second round after the illegal knee. If he wants to fight me again I think he should get to the line, and wait in it again. I'm looking for the title-shot. He had his chance before, and he couldn't get it so now it's my time.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/6/12/550747/thales-leites-no-rematch-f

That's my whole reason for losing respect for him. This interview right here. I get the impression that he realizes he was outclassed in that fight and had Marquardt not made a couple mistakes, Leites would have been toast.

Also, I'm a huge Marquardt fan. Big whoop. Wanna fight about it?

[S.R.]

I used to like you as a poster.

You won't have to be wakened. Leites is gonna kick Horn's ass.....duh.

Well, that hurts my feelings. It's my opinion, though.

Also, Leites isn't fighting Horn. What?

[Mia]

If Leites was afraid of getting hurt wouldn't he have just stayed down after the huge illegal knee and taken the cheap win. While I agree that Nate would win in a rematch, Thales has never given any indication that he's a quitter. He took some huge damage in the Marquardt fight and the last two rounds of the fight with Kampmann and he just kept coming forward.

You sir, are awesome and I am out of rep.

:(:mad:

[Mia]

Well, that hurts my feelings. It's my opinion, though.

Also, Leites isn't fighting Horn. What?

Sorry my bad. What makes you think that Leites is a boring fighter?

Wake you when it's over? What is that about?

[S.R.]

Sorry my bad. What makes you think that Leites is a boring fighter?

Wake you when it's over? What is that about?

I don't think Leites is a boring fighter, I think Dean Lister has a tendency to make his opponent look like a boring fighter.

[Anton Chigurh]

Oh, my bad. I take it back. UFC's 185 division is awesome. Patrick Cote is a true #1 contender.

Get outta here. I bash what needs to be bashed and UFC's 185 division needs to be bashed.

Would you rather me lie so I don't offend you? UFC nor any org is above criticism. Rest assured, if you wanna bash any non-Zuffa org, I won't be upset like you.

I would have to think the Cote/Almeida fight was a backfired set-up intended to get Almeida/Silva (a legitimately interesting fight) on the air. Poor Cote, he's going to get annihilated.

[S.R.]

I would have to think the Cote/Almeida fight was a backfired set-up intended to get Almeida/Silva (a legitimately interesting fight) on the air. Poor Cote, he's going to get annihilated.

Possibly. But even Almeida Vs Silva isn't a very compelling matchup. You can hardly say, "Almeida beat Patrick Cote. He deserves a title shot. He's 2-0 in the last 6 years!"

I just think the UFC's MW division is very lacking. Their LW and LHW divisions are stacked, but their MW and HW divisions leave alot to be desired.

Anyone know what weight the new TUF season is? I'm hoping MW or HW or anything but LW and LHW.

[dragomort]

Possibly. But even Almeida Vs Silva isn't a very compelling matchup. You can hardly say, "Almeida beat Patrick Cote. He deserves a title shot. He's 2-0 in the last 6 years!"

I just think the UFC's MW division is very lacking. Their LW and LHW divisions are stacked, but their MW and HW divisions leave alot to be desired.

Anyone know what weight the new TUF season is? I'm hoping MW or HW or anything but LW and LHW.

Worldwide the MW division isn't exactly bursting with talent. The UFC has a good percentage of the best in the division as well as some shining prospects. It's always been a bit of a scattered division though. Just because Silva gives people PTSD doesn't mean everyone he's fighting is crap, fyi. And if you want MW contenders then you may as well hope that TUF is LHW.

[S.R.]

That's true. MW as a whole UFC or not is very shallow. Who else is there out there? Frank Sham? Cung Le? Um.....

[Mia]

That's true. MW as a whole UFC or not is very shallow. Who else is there out there? Frank Sham? Cung Le? Um.....

Toquinho!

[Chivo]

Tequila!

[Chivo]

There are some other fighters who could make MW and be exciting, but they all cut down to 170.

[Mia]

Rousimar Palhares is gonna be a force........You'll see.

[S.R.]

Rousimar Palhares is gonna be a force........You'll see.

Isn't he fighting Hendo? If he can get by Hendo, I'd actually put him at the #1 contender spot.

Demian Maia is a guy I'm keeping an eye on, too.

[Mia]

Isn't he fighting Hendo? If he can get by Hendo, I'd actually put him at the #1 contender spot.

Demian Maia is a guy I'm keeping an eye on, too.

No doubt.

I think Toquinho is either fighting Hendo or Okami or Hendo and then when he wins, Okami..........I can't keep up.

[36thDisciple]

Lawler pwns nowadays, too bad he's under contract with EliteXC

[S.R.]

Yeah, Lawler is another good MW.

The guys in the DREAM MWGP are some studs.

[DCBooks]

I think you severely underestimate Clay Guida.

I think Mac could survive for a decision though as judges hate Clay.

[Charuto]

I would like to go on record and throw my hat in for Danzig. He's going to take a clear decision.

[FRANKIE]

I have to say I like Clay, but I don't see him as a great force in the division. Frankly, it seems like he couldn't finish a pillow. I'd like to see that change, but as it stands all he has going for him is good wrestling and a bottomless gas tank.

[dragomort]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6806&zoneid=13

The proposed bout between middleweights Dean Lister and Thales Leites, originally reported by several outlets as taking place on Sept. 17 as a part of the UFC Fight Night show emanating from Omaha, Neb., has been postponed due to a slight knee injury suffered by Lister, as confirmed to MMAWeekly.com by Lister’s management team at Haymaker’s Empire.

[dragomort]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4954/drew-mcfedries-vs-mike-massenzio-at-ufc-fight-night-15.mma

Drew McFedries vs. Mike Massenzio announced.

[derubermensch]

Did anyone rank Clay Guida after he beat Aurelio? Just want a show of hands, if any, as I'm wondering if I was alone on that.

[dragomort]

Did anyone rank Clay Guida after he beat Aurelio? Just want a show of hands, if any, as I'm wondering if I was alone on that.

I think I might of had him ranked, but not very high or long. Aurelio was coming off 2 losses of his own and so was Guida, after all - and Guida did lose right after that win as well. I think right now I've got him around the 20 spot.

[dragomort]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4982/omahas-jason-brilz-expected-to-compete-at-ufc-fight-night-15.mma

Anyone know much about Brilz at all? Supposed to be scheduled for this one.

[Bird]

I have to say I like Clay, but I don't see him as a great force in the division. Frankly, it seems like he couldn't finish a pillow. I'd like to see that change, but as it stands all he has going for him is good wrestling and a bottomless gas tank.

The way he fights without getting fatigued is entertaining as hell plus he has that right hand that looks like a he is throwing a fastball.

[TravisBickle]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4982/omahas-jason-brilz-expected-to-compete-at-ufc-fight-night-15.mma

Anyone know much about Brilz at all? Supposed to be scheduled for this one.

First, I have never seen him fight, but it seems like they are bringing him in to get another fighter a win. He is 15-1 but he has only had 1 fight since '06.

[BloodyKnux]

http://www.bloodyknux.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1082931#post1082931


New interview with Drew McFedries is up

[elgigante]

Check that interview out. Drew was quite forthright throughout. I think it came out well, especially when he talked about people who fake like they are fighters and his career ambitions

[Merlin]

Great interview there. He's pretty well-spoken, candid, and realistic about his place in the division.

[dragomort]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/5004/alessio-sakara-vs-joe-vedepo-likely-for-ufc-fight-night-15.mma

Alessio Sakara vs. Joe Vedepo. Calm down folks!

[dragomort]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/5053/jason-brilz-likely-to-meet-brad-morris-at-ufc-fight-night-15.mma

Jason Brilz should meet Brad Morris as well.

[swope]

danzig doesnt need to be a worse fighter than guida to lose this.

he just needs to get outwrestled and aggressively petted while on his back, which is exactly how i see guida winning this.

[ilostmydog]

Is this supposed to be a three-hour fight night? UFC.com has six fights listed as being broadcast.

[Pleeb]

danzig doesnt need to be a worse fighter than guida to lose this.

he just needs to get outwrestled and aggressively petted while on his back, which is exactly how i see guida winning this.

Victory by back petting?

[dragomort]

Victory by back petting?

Dry-hump, heavy-petting combo.

Moving it back to a 2-hour broadcast would be stupid, but not inconceivable for them to do. I'd hope they're smarter than that.

[Whining Pussy]

found it. who the fuck came up with this card? like seriously, who really was like, "these are some fights that i think people want to see!"
Horn vs Gouveia? Horn doesn't ever win anymore. why?
Who's Bradley? and how inconsistent is Lauzon, again? Are Herman or Belcher really viable UFC MWs?

Diaz vs Neer is ok, for an undercard.

[adamn]

didn't even know about this, looking forward to it.

War Neer!

[Whining Pussy]

Rousimar Palhares is gonna be a force........You'll see.
a force at pulling guard every time he gets punched in the face. that guy is fucking banned as far as i'm concerned. everyone of those times he fell down after getting punched in the face, i scored as a knock down.. intentional or not.

[S.R.]

What weight is Horn Vs Gouveia at?

[Bishop]

wait, what? Lauzon loses one fight in the UFC and he's inconsistant? yeah, losing to Florian is very degrading

[Bishop]

What weight is Horn Vs Gouveia at?
185

[Whining Pussy]

What weight is Horn Vs Gouveia at?
i'd assume 185 since Horn has proven he's not even competitive at 185 anymore. regardless, if you can't beat Jeremy Horn at this point you probly shouldn't be in the UFC... because Horn probly shouldn't be in the UFC. that goes for Jorge Rivera too.

[Whining Pussy]

wait, what? Lauzon loses one fight in the UFC and he's inconsistant? yeah, losing to Florian is very degrading
he's just got a hot and cold style. he's always been inconsistent. not just with Florian. he's either pumped or he's folding. i just don't think he has a very good attitude for competitive fight sport. moreso, who is Bradley? i just feel like when a loved one loses a tough fight, they too often get welcome backs against a fighter no one has ever heard of and will likely never hear from again. like who was that guy that Forrest fought in Ireland after he lost to Ortiz?

[Bishop]

the "very dangerous" Hector Ramirez....as I remember said from the UFC promo for the Ireland card

[Whining Pussy]

the "very dangerous" Hector Ramirez....as I remember said from the UFC promo for the Ireland card
exactly.

[Marshal G.K. Zhukov]

the "very dangerous" Hector Ramirez....as I remember said from the UFC promo for the Ireland card

I actually bought that card. I view that as a tremendous personal failure.

[Bishop]

at least it had Griffin/Guida :o

[Uru]

Horn has been out of this one for a little while now because of an injury. He's replaced by Ryan Jensen.

[Whining Pussy]

Horn has been out of this one for a little while now because of an injury. He's replaced by Ryan Jensen.
wow.. that sucks. just when you think it couldn't get any worse. they resurrect a guy who's never even won in the UFC. wtf? quality is not a good thing?

[S.R.]

This card should be alot of fun. Call me a dickhead, but I'm very interested in Schafer Vs Alexander. I wanna see if Alexanders knocks Schafer's block off before Schafer gets chance to take him to the ground and sub him with ease.

[TheGhost113x]

On paper it isn't he best card. But of course I will still watch it. There are a few good match-ups here, and some decent fighters on the under card as well.

Alexander vs. Schafer is a real interesting match-up. Alexander could definitely KO him on the feet, but Schafer is a big guy for this weight class. And he's good with submissions. I was not impressed with the way Alexander handled himself on the ground in his last fight either. Schafer probably wins this by a submission I would have to guess.

Belcher is a very good striker. Excellent all around on his feet, and really good elbows. Herman has displayed an improvement in his striking, and showed an ability to KO his opponents in recent fights. Should be a very close fight, I give Herman the slight edge because he does seem to be the better wrestler of the two and can handle himself fairly well when it comes to his striking.

Diaz vs Neer. I think Diaz wins this. I would be very surprised if Neer wins. Diaz has a very good ground game, but I wouldn't mind seeing him display an improvement on his feet either.

Danzig vs Guida - This is a tough fight for Danzig I think. It is possible he could catch him in a sub. But Guida is a very relentless fighter. He's got decent punches, and excellent wrestling. I'm sure Danzig is going to be really training off his back for Guida. But i think Guida wins this by a decision. I gotta give credit to Mac though, for going out and fighting a very tough competitor like Guida.

Besides that the Lauzon fight intrigues me, he usually puts on an exciting fight. McFedries always throws bombs and tries to knock out his opponents. Same can be said for Sakara. Gouveia vs Jensen should be pretty competitive as well.

[Kilroy]

Neer is a breast at 155, VERY underrated imo.
A very tough test for Diaz Jr. and Neer might be looking for revenge for the loss to Diaz Sr.
But Diaz seems to have that X factor that Neer lacks and I think he will be able to pull it off somehow.
But Neer has better striking and better wrestling and he is bigger and stronger...

I really like this card, alot of fights Im looking forward to actually.

[swope]

Neer is a breast at 155, VERY underrated imo.
A very tough test for Diaz Jr. and Neer might be looking for revenge for the loss to Diaz Sr.
But Diaz seems to have that X factor that Neer lacks and I think he will be able to pull it off somehow.
But Neer has better striking and better wrestling and he is bigger and stronger...

I really like this card, alot of fights Im looking forward to actually.

i think neer is going to expose nate's standup, badly.

[TheGhost113x]

Yeah perhaps i'm underestimating Neer a bit. Most of the time I saw him fight was at 170 I believe and 155 seems to be a better weight class for him. Nate could have a hard time getting him to the ground, I wouldn't be surprised if he just grabs a hold of him and pulls guard if he's in trouble. I hope his sake he's been working on his striking alot. He's probably not going to be afraid to get taken down by Neer, so he should train alot of kicks while on his feet, while working his way into getting Neer to the ground.

[Left Hook]

i think neer is going to expose nate's standup, badly.

Expose what we know already isn't there? Nate wins this fight through sheer determination... again.

Nate by fucking triangle.

[swope]

Expose what we know already isn't there? Nate wins this fight through sheer determination... again.

Nate by fucking triangle.

if it ends up on the ground then all is lost for neer, i will concede this.

my biggest concern actually is that neer is going to catch a leg kick and instinctively go for a takedown.

but if he can avoid ending up horizontal, neer is going to put a hurting on nates face.

[Mia]

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6417/natediazlt2.jpg

I cannot wait to see this fight!

[SupaMayne]

but if he can avoid ending up horizontal, neer is going to put a hurting on nates face.

I doubt that... Nate has good boxing.

[Merlin]

I doubt that... Nate has good boxing.

You've been fooled by the Diaz brothers' 'good boxing' as well I see.

[SupaMayne]

You've been fooled by the Diaz brothers' 'good boxing' as well I see.

When Nick and Nate aren't doing his little pitter-patter style, they are damn fine boxers... Too bad they rarely commit to their punches.

[kcb]

When Nick and Nate aren't doing his little pitter-patter style, they are damn fine boxers... Too bad they rarely commit to their punches.

Actually, their boxing is fucking terrible. Elbows flared, devoid of any hip movement, non committal punches, etc, etc.

[S.R.]

Their boxing may not be technically sound, but it's effective. The 'pitter-patter' style really frustrates their opponents. At least Nate is still relying on his BJJ as his #1 tool. That's something I wish Nick would get back to. They're both studs on the ground.

[TheGhost113x]

The Diaz brothers, Nick anyways, have decent hands. Not much power behind their punches at all, but I remember when Nick was bulked up and fought at 185 he was able to knock out Robbie Lawler.

The technique isn't bad, don't get me wrong, they aren't going to be boxers anytime soon. But the accumulation of punches can really add up. Just ask Gomi.

[S.R.]

The Diaz brothers, Nick anyways, have decent hands. Not much power behind their punches at all, but I remember when Nick was bulked up and fought at 185 he was able to knock out Robbie Lawler.

The technique isn't bad, don't get me wrong, they aren't going to be boxers anytime soon. But the accumulation of punches can really add up. Just ask Gomi.

The Lawler fight was at 170. Nick is small at 170. He'd be teeny tiny at MW. I agree, though. If anything, it's frustrating and their opponents end up getting pissed and making mistakes.

[TheGhost113x]

The Lawler fight was at 170. Nick is small at 170. He'd be teeny tiny at MW. I agree, though. If anything, it's frustrating and their opponents end up getting pissed and making mistakes.

Damn I always thought that fight was at 185. Robbie is a pretty huge guy for 170 pounds.

I think alot of that has to do with the constant taunting as well. Diaz loves to play the mind games with his opponents.

[S.R.]

Yeah, it's part of his game. He pisses his opponents off. He gets them flustered and pissed off and in turn they make mistakes.

Lawler Vs Diaz is still one of the most entertaining fights I've ever seen. I think Mazagatti even says in the middle of it, "No talking!" which had me laughing my ass off.

[Mia]

Yeah, it's part of his game. He pisses his opponents off. He gets them flustered and pissed off and in turn they make mistakes.

Lawler Vs Diaz is still one of the most entertaining fights I've ever seen. I think Mazagatti even says in the middle of it, "No talking!" which had me laughing my ass off.

Hazzardgatti is a piece of shit and and Nate is going to win this fight.

[TheGhost113x]

Lawler Vs Diaz is still one of the most entertaining fights I've ever seen. I think Mazagatti even says in the middle of it, "No talking!" which had me laughing my ass off.

Completely agree. It was quite an amazing fight. They've shown it countless times on Spike TV as well, its pretty hard to forget about that one. Love him or hate him, Diaz always brings a very exciting fight.

As far as Nate goes - I think his striking needs quite a bit of work at this point.

[SupaMayne]

As far as Nate goes - I think his striking needs quite a bit of work at this point.

And you base this off what? When has he been able to actually show his striking skills?

[TheGhost113x]

And you base this off what? When has he been able to actually show his striking skills?

A few of his fights on TUF, he didn't look all that comfortable with his striking I must admit. He pretty much immediately tried to get the fight to the ground every time. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if he fights a good wrestler or someone with good TD defense he's going to need a good striking game as a back-up plan.

[Goiden]

Neer is a breast at 155.

I'd hate to see where the nipple is located then.


:)

[SupaMayne]

A few of his fights on TUF, he didn't look all that comfortable with his striking I must admit. He pretty much immediately tried to get the fight to the ground every time. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if he fights a good wrestler or someone with good TD defense he's going to need a good striking game as a back-up plan.

His striking looked good against Emerson, but against Corey Hill it didn't look good. But thats because he had to deal with the extremely long reach of Corey Hill, and Hill actually brought his A game.

Plus that was awhile ago, I'm sure Diaz's striking has got a lot better... I've heard he's even training with Olympic Gold Medalist, Andre Ward.

[TheGhost113x]

His striking looked good against Emerson, but against Corey Hill it didn't look good. But thats because he had to deal with the extremely long reach of Corey Hill, and Hill actually brought his A game.

Plus that was awhile ago, I'm sure Diaz's striking has got a lot better... I've heard he's even training with Olympic Gold Medalist, Andre Ward.

Oh, i'm sure its gotten better. However, I doubt he'll ever posses that one punch KO power with his striking.

I'm not blaming him for the Hill fight at all since the guy is massive for the weigh class he's in.

The Emerson fight - didn't Nate also take that to the ground and finish him with a sub? I don't think he would want to stand and trade with Emerson the entire time. What about the Maynard fight? I must admit I barely remember these fights. But I didn't see a whole lot in his striking that stood out or impressed me.

[SupaMayne]

Oh, i'm sure its gotten better. However, I doubt he'll ever posses that one punch KO power with his striking.

I'm not blaming him for the Hill fight at all since the guy is massive for the weigh class he's in.

The Emerson fight - didn't Nate also take that to the ground and finish him with a sub? I don't think he would want to stand and trade with Emerson the entire time. What about the Maynard fight? I must admit I barely remember these fights. But I didn't see a whole lot in his striking that stood out or impressed me.

Nate and Emerson went toe to toe in the 1st round, keeping the fight on the feet... Then in the 2nd round, Nate finally realized he has an easy victory if he just takes him to the ground, and he did.

Maynard fight was on the ground pretty much the whole fight.

[TheGhost113x]

Nate and Emerson went toe to toe in the 1st round, keeping the fight on the feet... Then in the 2nd round, Nate finally realized he has an easy victory if he just takes him to the ground, and he did.

Maynard fight was on the ground pretty much the whole fight.

We'll see how it goes. No one really expected Diego Sanchez to knock out Joe Riggs when he did either. I still maintain that's the one facet of his game he needs to work on the most.

[5acrossYOeye]

Nate's boxing has set up a couple victories but I've never been really impressed. IMO this fight at 155 for Nate is a tougher fight for Nick at 170. Nick is a small 170 and so is Neer but Neer is a pretty strong 155. This is a great test for Nate and if he wins easier than expected, then its time for maybe him to fight the winner of Guida/Danzig.

Diaz 3rd Round Sub.

[Mia]

Nate's boxing has set up a couple victories but I've never been really impressed. IMO this fight at 155 for Nate is a tougher fight for Nick at 170. Nick is a small 170 and so is Neer but Neer is a pretty strong 155. This is a great test for Nate and if he wins easier than expected, then its time for maybe him to fight the winner of Guida/Danzig.

Diaz 3rd Round Sub.

Indeed. Because I'll tell you one thing.......Nate surely beat Kurt Pellegrino a lot easier than most people thought.

[Zigga-Zagga]

The thing that really does help the Dentist is that Neer can throw some weight around at 155, and Nate on the other hand, like both of the Diaz brothers, hasn't seen a weight room in his life.

[Bird]

The thing that really does help the Dentist is that Neer can throw some weight around at 155, and Nate on the other hand, like both of the Diaz brothers, hasn't seen a weight room in his life.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s240/johnglaze1/natediaz.gif

[taekwondo-n't]

Indeed. Because I'll tell you one thing.......Nate surely beat Kurt Pellegrino a lot easier than most people thought.

not really...nate was getting completely handled for the entire first round, and most of the second, iirc. then he pulled off the triangle after a pellegrino slam. that was another example of diaz taking a beating before coming back to submit his opponent.

shit, it really seems like he does that in nearly every fight (hill, maynard, pellegrino, manny LOL).

[S.R.]

The Diaz Bros. just lack any muscle. Especially Nate. He's always going to get thrown around because he's so physically weak. But a Cesar Gracie BJJ guy always has a chance to get a sub. I think the Neer fight looks alot like the Batman fight. Nate's going to get pushed around in the first round, possibly cut, physically dominated, then sub Neer in the 2nd. Then he'll go point a finger gun at the camera, talk some shit, puff his chest, then mad dog Rogan while being interviewed. It's going to be glorious.

[Kilroy]

So, Nate Diaz is Tiny Nog? :)

[Left Hook]

not really...nate was getting completely handled for the entire first round, and most of the second, iirc. then he pulled off the triangle after a pellegrino slam. that was another example of diaz taking a beating before coming back to submit his opponent.

shit, it really seems like he does that in nearly every fight (hill, maynard, pellegrino, manny LOL).

And he still wins. Through sheer determination. Nate has this shit on lockdown.

[Left Hook]

So, Nate Diaz is Tiny Nog? :)

Who do you say speaks better English. :D

[taekwondo-n't]

And he still wins. Through sheer determination. Nate has this shit on lockdown.

i'm not debating that. mia just made it seem like his win over pellegrino was easy, and i was just clarifying that he had to take a beating before kurt succumbed to the triangle. i agree that nate wins this fight, but i don't think it'll be a cakewalk as some seem to.

and yes, nate diaz should go by tiny nog from now on. he seems to have the "get-your-ass-beat-for-the-better-part-of-the-fight-and-come-back-to-win-with-a-wicked-sub" syndrome. :p

[Rumbin]

I was suprised that fight wasnt stopped when Pellegrino had him crucifixed on the cage raining elbows.

I cant wait for this card. Belcher sends Herman 1 step closer to packing it up to SportFight

[taekwondo-n't]

I was suprised that fight wasnt stopped when Pellegrino had him crucifixed on the cage raining elbows.

I cant wait for this card. Belcher sends Herman 1 step closer to packing it up to SportFight

i wish. but there's also the possibility that herman sens belcher one step closer to packing it up to WEF...

[S.R.]

I cant wait for this card. Belcher sends Herman 1 step closer to packing it up to SportFight

I hope so. But Belcher has looked like fucking garbage this last year. Herman sucks, too, but he's sucked a bit less his last few times out.

[kcb]

Neer is going to beat Nate like a dirty rug.

[Kilroy]

Who do you say speaks better English. :D

Define "english". ;)

[Left Hook]

i'm not debating that. mia just made it seem like his win over pellegrino was easy, and i was just clarifying that he had to take a beating before kurt succumbed to the triangle. i agree that nate wins this fight, but i don't think it'll be a cakewalk as some seem to.

and yes, nate diaz should go by tiny nog from now on. he seems to have the "get-your-ass-beat-for-the-better-part-of-the-fight-and-come-back-to-win-with-a-wicked-sub" syndrome. :p

I agree, but we all know that. When is the last time one of the Diaz Bros. produced a cakewalk, even with obviously inferior opposition?

[Kilroy]

I agree, but we all know that. When is the last time one of the Diaz Bros. produced a cakewalk, even with obviously inferior opposition?

Nick Diaz vs. Koji Oishi?

[Kilroy]

Or maybe, looking at the fightfinder, Nick Diaz vs. Tibau was impressive as hell if I dont remember it completly wrong...

[Left Hook]

Probably. Damn three years. They don't like to do it easy. But I don't care, 209 for life motherfucker!!!!!!

[TheGhost113x]

Yeah Nate is about 6'1 and weighing 155 pounds. Its going to be hard to generate any kind of KO power when your that skinny. Its got its advantages and disadvantages in both ways I suppose. He's going to have a reach advantage over almost anyone he fights. If he can have a good jab, good technique with his punches and really work on kicks to compliment his solid guard game he's going to be a tough guy to beat.

Like I said before - He shouldn't worry too much about throwing kicks. Because the worst case scenario is he gets taken down and ends on on his back where he is very comfortable. He'll just need to throw them with speed and not allow his opponent to telegraph them, so he doesn't eat a big punch when he throws them. That strategy would do him well against someone with good takedown defense, or someone who is physically stronger than him. But when your that good with submission you can just pull guard as well.

I'm still going to have to go with Diaz here though, most likely wins this by a submission.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Diaz is going to T-bag him and ask "How tastes my pee-pee?"

[Acefrank]

nate's going to have to go to the dentist when Neer is done with him

[J. Walter Weatherman]

nate's going to have to go to the dentist when Neer is done with him

Yeah, but he's still going to win.

[Acefrank]

Diaz will be man handled the whole fight like joe daddy was

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Diaz will be man handled the whole fight like joe daddy was

How do you figure? Joe Daddy was trying to take Neer down the whole time. Neer knew he had Stevenson beat in the stand up and that all he had to do was defend takedowns and tee off. Diaz will present more than 1 dimension of attack, plus he's not a midget.

[Topside_Triangle]

Also Joe had the kneebar fully extended but Neer is just a tough sumbitch.

[Mia]

Also.....War Danzig and Lauzon!!!

[S.R.]

Gouveia looked like a zombie at 185. I bet that cut was hard as fuck for him. He's gonna be huge tomorrow.

[Acefrank]

Diaz stand-up is worse than Joes

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Nobody's stand-up is worse than Joes

Fixed

[Mia]

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9249/7113diazneerufn15weighci7.jpg

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3052/7113natediazufn15weighwa2.jpg

[Mia]

Will there be vBookie on this event?

[SupaMayne]

Diaz stand-up is worse than Joes

Are you high?

[Bishop]

Is Schafer/Alexander the main event? On the junkie, it said "blah blah blah, headlined by Schafer vs. Alexander". If so, why are they blowing up Nate and Neer on their posters?

[Rumbin]

Cmon Mia, Nate is teh awesome but hes as skinny as a fucking rail, hes got no pop to him.

[dragomort]

Is Schafer/Alexander the main event? On the junkie, it said "blah blah blah, headlined by Schafer vs. Alexander". If so, why are they blowing up Nate and Neer on their posters?

I hope not. Everywhere I've seen has Neer/Nate and Danzig/Guida at the top, as it should be

[Left Hook]

Safe to say Nate's got some muscle.





Will there be vBookie on this event?

Not in the arms...

[SupaMayne]

If Alexander wins, we should all wager how many times he's going to say "NEBRASKA IS IN DA HOUZZZZZE!"

[Mia]

Not in the arms...

I think he does.....plus, look at him next to Neer.

[Mia]

Cmon Mia, Nate is teh awesome but hes as skinny as a fucking rail, hes got no pop to him.

No pop to him? Tell that to Kurt.

[Rumbin]

All I remember about the Pellegrino fight is Nate getting elbowed in the crucifix and then slapping on a triangle.

I like Nate but the dude just doesnt have anything standing

[Left Hook]

I think he does.....plus, look at him next to Neer.

He is much taller, but we all know that. Sherk is the shortest LW, but once he is on the juice he is easily the strongest. :)

Also what is with the neg? :mad:





By the way can someone please photoshop Nick and Nate as the Mario bros? :D

[Mia]

He is much taller, but we all know that. Sherk is the shortest LW, but once he is on the juice he is easily the strongest. :)

Also what is with the neg? :mad:





By the way can someone please photoshop Nick and Nate as the Mario bros? :D

Oh.......my bad. I swear I didn't mean to neg you.


*negs AceFrank to spread so I can pos rep you*

[Left Hook]

Neer's an Ace's near future...

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/Fight_me209/Diaz-2.gif

[Mia]

And Wilson.....who could forget him. He is the sweetest guy. He needs this win.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9326/14wilsongouveiaufn15weicc9.jpg

[Rumbin]

Lookin good, Im rooting for him big time

[Mia]

Will there be vBookie on this event?

Guess not.

[Kilroy]

Diaz stand-up is worse than Joes

Not if you take reach into account...

[Zigga-Zagga]

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3052/7113natediazufn15weighwa2.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/211987217_c01185508f.jpg?v=0

He may not be a bitch, but in need of a hot dog at least.

[S.R.]

Gouviea and Nate look pretty fucking disgusting.

[Bruisiful Punch]

Neer's an Ace's near future...

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/Fight_me209/Diaz-2.gif

As cocky and borderline disrespectful as that is you cant deny its extremely slick/smug.

[dragomort]

A few last minute Vbookies are up now.

[EndlessFighter]

Look's like Nate's been takin' dat dere celltech.

[Acefrank]

Neer wont take him down he will just stand and knock his teeth out, so Diaz is in deep water with no noodle

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Neer wont take him down he will just stand and knock his teeth out, so Diaz is in deep water with no noodle

Diaz will still win.

[Mia]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/211987217_c01185508f.jpg?v=0

He may not be a bitch, but in need of a hot dog at least.

Nate would NEVER eat a fucking hot dog....come on, now.

[brainuse]

I think people underestimate how weird it is when you end up in the ring matched up against either of the Diaz brother's boxing. Not that they are exactly the same striking, but they both have those long arms, they fire from beyond weird angles, and they mix up when they are just making contact and when they are trying to throw with power. Most guys have probably never seen anything like it, because it's so odd, and it seems to take a while to figure out the timing.

[Mia]

I think this is a very decent card.

[Acefrank]

Houston by ko round 1 im calling my shot

[Acefrank]

I think this is a very decent card.

yes and better yet free

[kcb]

Joe Rogan just said Josh Neer has over 100 amateur fights and I'm going to go ahead and call BS on that.

[dragomort]

Joe Rogan just said Josh Neer has over 100 amateur fights and I'm going to go ahead and call BS on that.

You didn't know that? He often lied on his resume and listed himself as Jeremy Horn :p

[dragomort]

Dana White for president!!

[dragomort]

I guess this will do as the live thread too *insert shrug*

[kcb]

WAR BELCHER!!!

[kcb]

LOL @ technical difficulties.

[Mia]

Joe Rogan just said Josh Neer has over 100 amateur fights and I'm going to go ahead and call BS on that.

Mentioned a lot of opponents and neglected to mention Din Thomas. :(

[SupaMayne]

WAR BELCHER!!!

I'll root for anyone if they are facing that stupid ginger faggot.

WAR BELCHER!

[dragomort]

Oh shit, the building is in Nebraska!

[dragomort]

lol, I need one of those hand-held Houston Alexander cut-outs

[Mia]

Houston has thighs from hell

[Mia]

hahahaaa...........Houston suxorz

[dragomort]

lol, I was waiting for Schafer to get de-pants'd there. Houston needs to learn any form of sub-oriented grappling as of yesterday

[Bird]

Full mount, Houston's bottom game is shit.

[dragomort]

lol, my dog has more of a bottom game than Houston.

[Bird]

HAHAHAHA. Nebraska has just left the building.

[kcb]

Tapping with 9 seconds left. That's tough.

[Bird]

Wow, that commercial with the Asian girl slapping the shit out of that guy was great. I wonder how much she charges for that.

[SupaMayne]

Eric Schafer ain't going to make it out of Nebraska alive!

Oh well, atleast we won't have to see Alexander anymore, he was always overrated.

[S.R.]

I wanted Houston to win, but he's the exact type of fighter that should NEVER be in the UFC.

[kcb]

Houston should have answered the phone.

[Ebeneezer]

primo meatball

[kcb]

Ultimate Commercial Break!

[dragomort]

Houston's shown improvement, so it kinda sucks, but it's obvious his submission game has to evolve about 765 more steps before he belongs here. The UFC: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed: Replay has about 98 too many colons in it to work, imo.

[Donut62]

Houston should have answered the phone.

Bwahahahahaha

[Mia]

I just lost 50k ............hahaha. I suck as bad as Houston

[S.R.]

Let's see Shogun Vs Schafer. Perfect comeback fight for Mauricio.

[dragomort]

lol, Hammerhouse the movie??? Awesome!!!

[SupaMayne]

Kevin Randleman Tapout commercial! WAR RANDLEMAN!

[brainuse]

I wanted Houston to win, but he's the exact type of fighter that should NEVER be in the UFC.
The type that KO'd Keith Jardine?

Did anyone else think at least one of those first two knees was questionable?

[SupaMayne]

Did anyone else think at least one of those first two knees was questionable?

1st one, yeah... But not the 2nd one, it looked legal.

[S.R.]

The type that KO'd Keith Jardine?

Did anyone else think at least one of those first two knees was questionable?

No, I mean 36year old one dimensional brawlers. They belong in KOTC.

And I thought BOTH those knees were questionable. One of them Schafers knee was on the ground for sure, and the other, I'm not sure.

[kcb]

The type that KO'd Keith Jardine?

Did anyone else think at least one of those first two knees was questionable?

It happened pretty fast, but I thought they were both illegal.

[Ebeneezer]

lol, Hammerhouse the movie??? Awesome!!!

At the premiere drinks and popcorn will be served in novelty syringe shaped cups

[kcb]

I hope Alan learned to wrestle in Thailand.

[dragomort]

I thought the first was a bad one as well, but I think the second caught him just as he had gotten his knee off the ground.

[Ebeneezer]

Herman looked like he just got up in that graphic

[dragomort]

I hope Alan learned to wrestle in Thailand.

He needs no wrestling if he KO's him on the way for a TD..... *prays this happens*