If We can not grow up,DREAM TV show is finish in September......

[Herbo]

■TANIGAWA producer said"If We continue such a TV rating,DREAM TV will be end "CommentsAdd Star

From http://sadironman.seesaa.net/article/103896545.html

original article is "kamipro special"

TANIAGWA Sadaharu FEG producer said"DREAM.5's TV rating is only 10%.We can not said it is cuccess.If We can not grow up,DREAM TV show is finish in September......"

If DREAM TV on air is end,DREAM7s damage is very serious.

iriginal japanese article

「（DREAM.5の平均視聴率が10.0％だったことについて）裏番組が強力だったことを考慮しても喜べ ない数字ですよね。たぶん･･･同じような数字を獲ったら、9月以降の放送はなくなっちゃうな ぁ」

From Gryphon. FAAAArrrk.

[Randjob]

what?

[DCBooks]

This is sad news. If I read this correctly, which I might not be doing.

[Oliver Klosov]

soooooo .... Dream is in danger of folding?

[Left Hook]

Fuck Japan television then. Waiting insane ratings during a non-boom period is down right stupid. Need to make more room for shitty game shows?

[Herbo]

In more English terms he is saying that if the ratings don't improve they are going to be cut in September and if they have no TV deal there is no Dream. The last show was on prime time in Japan for the first time.

[Oliver Klosov]

sooooo... how do we here at bloodyknux.com improve the japanese TV rating? cause like, it would really suck hard if Dream no longer existed.

[Herbo]

Brb, gonna go a buy a couple TV's.

[Oliver Klosov]

Shiroobi needs to get more people watching.

[Zigga-Zagga]

The BK crew needs to head to J-pan for some door-to-door work.

[Oliver Klosov]

do the numbers from HDNet have no effect on this at all?

[Zigga-Zagga]

do the numbers from HDNet have no effect on this at all?

Doubt it, different ads.

[Oliver Klosov]

Doubt it, different ads.


I was just thinking in terms of revenue generated for FEG

[Herbo]

The revenue or money (money will never be an issue for FEG) is not the problem. The risk is that TBS will cut them due to low ratings. HDNet has no affect on this whatsoever.

[Oliver Klosov]

and there is zero chance to get on a different network? or are the yakuza blocking that?

[Herbo]

TBS is THE network for Dream. That's as good as it gets. The only thing they can hope for here is that their ratings improve. They already had the Akasaka fight festival and that seemed to help slightly (although it is hard to tell because it was their first foray into the prime time) but they need a star right now. Unfortunately Aoki winning the LWGP would have helped their chances a lot more than Hanson.

[turbozed]

DREAM rocks and this fucking sucks.

[Oliver Klosov]

TBS is THE network for Dream. That's as good as it gets. The only thing they can hope for here is that their ratings improve. They already had the Akasaka fight festival and that seemed to help slightly (although it is hard to tell because it was their first foray into the prime time) but they need a star right now. Unfortunately Aoki winning the LWGP would have helped their chances a lot more than Hanson.


they need KID to be back.

[DCBooks]

The last show was on prime time in Japan for the first time.

and was an amazing event. Kawjiri vs Alvarez and Hansen vs Aoki stole the weekend from both the UFC and Affliction. I can't say enough how sad it would be if the Dream failed.

[Dewey's Diva]

and was an amazing event. Kawjiri vs Alvarez and Hansen vs Aoki stole the weekend from both the UFC and Affliction. I can't say enough how sad it would be if the Dream failed.

I agree. I read something about how the rerun of UFC84 on cable outperformed EliteXC in the ratings on Saturday by a wide margin. I miss Pride. I am disappointed that the IFL failed. Though Affliction put on some great fights, I don't know that it can sustain itself. Now Dream may falter as well. I am afraid ultimately MMA will be just a brand (UFC) - that is the way things seem to be going.

[dragomort]

:( I don't think there's anything else to add except my sadness. :(

[Marshal G.K. Zhukov]

That sucks, they need to push semi-retarded Sakuraba more, Gomi and Yoshida in Sengoku hurts too. I wish they would just pool their talents and create Pride II.

[Phla Les]

Dream needs to get some relevant HW and LHW fights. Almost every Pride card there was one fight which shuffled the rankings with the big boys.

Damn this would be so gay. But at least WVR is doing the right things as a promotion. If Dream folds, hopefully they'll pick up the slack and emerge as a relevant global promotion.

[Bird]

Horrible news, right after a good show too.

[Bishop]

Fuck Japan television then. Waiting insane ratings during a non-boom period is down right stupid. Need to make more room for shitty game shows?
shitty game shows? those variety shows pwn the shit out of anything on telemundo

[Bishop]

Horrible news, right after a good show too.
right when Eddie Alvarez was on his way to becoming a Ernesto Hoost/Peter Aerts/Bob Sapp/Fedor/Igor Vovchanchyn-like figure :(

ok, that's stretching it a tad

[DAZEDJELLYLEGS]

Something doesnt sound right here. Making a statement like that when you have guys under contract but other orgs out there is a little odd.

Although its a little out there I wouldnt be massively surprised if this was a ploy of some kind. Keep in mind that many fans, myself included felt like a member of there family had died when Pride FC folded. Perhaps they are going to do a huge PPV and all of us who might well fill our shorts over the thought of Pride/Dream again biting the dust will instead of watching for free on the net buy 2 x PPV's for good measure.

Just a wild theory but even so this does sound odd.

[Rumbin]

I guess the rumor of Crocop vs Akiyama has some legs then, seems like a matchup like that would get them the ratings.

[36thDisciple]

Prime time TV slot with fuckin top tier MMA talent, and nobody watches. All these Japanese dudes who are in our age bracket who prefer to watch game shows over fighting need to be slapped upside the head.

[Feniin]

DREAM folding would be a nightmare :(

[Bird]

They are offering Gilbert Yvel a contract for a fight in November. Keep hope alive ?

[Kilroy]

:(

[EndlessFighter]

Mike Kogan will fix everything.He's the greatest.

[Whining Pussy]

they should probly illegalize fuckin pants for starters and someone other than you geeksluts might be able to take it seriously.

Alvarez v Uno for strap, imperative.

[Phla Les]

Alvarez v Uno for strap, imperative.

You hate Uno enough to sentence him to death?

[Oliver Klosov]

they should probly illegalize fuckin pants for starters and someone other than you geeksluts might be able to take it seriously.

Alvarez v Uno for strap, imperative.


Shouldn't one of them have the strap, first?

[Whining Pussy]

Shouldn't one of them have the strap, first?
absolutely not.

[EndlessFighter]

they should probly illegalize fuckin pants for starters and someone other than you geeksluts might be able to take it seriously.

Alvarez v Uno for strap, imperative.

yeah,cause when i see a guy with long tights on i think "this is cannot be taken seriously."

[S.R.]

yeah,cause when i see a guy with long tights on i think "this is cannot be taken seriously."

You and I don't, but alot of other people do. You gotta take a look at the audience that MMA is attracting. Go watch any UFC event at Hooter's. These may not be the type of fans DREAM wants, but these are the fans DREAM (and any other MMA org) needs. The tight pants, the wrestling shoes, the costumes, they all make your average ignorant UFC fan scream, "GAY!"

Personally, I'd prefer if DREAM didn't change ANYTHING since with each passing event, they're getting better and better, but playing up the emotional and almost intellectual aspect of MMA isn't getting them anywhere in Japan and it sure as hell isn't going to get them anywhere in the West, so it might be time for them to switch it up and start playing to the nu-metal/rap-rock, maxim magazine reading audience. Since that's obviously where the money is.

[EndlessFighter]

You and I don't, but alot of other people do. You gotta take a look at the audience that MMA is attracting. Go watch any UFC event at Hooter's. These may not be the type of fans DREAM wants, but these are the fans DREAM (and any other MMA org) needs. The tight pants, the wrestling shoes, the costumes, they all make your average ignorant UFC fan scream, "GAY!"

Personally, I'd prefer if DREAM didn't change ANYTHING since with each passing event, they're getting better and better, but playing up the emotional and almost intellectual aspect of MMA isn't getting them anywhere in Japan and it sure as hell isn't going to get them anywhere in the West, so it might be time for them to switch it up and start playing to the nu-metal/rap-rock, maxim magazine reading audience. Since that's obviously where the money is.

Dream's USA audience in all actuality doesn't mean dick to them staying alive.

[S.R.]

Dream's USA audience in all actuality doesn't mean dick to them staying alive.

Not now, but if they can gain some market share in the USA MMA market, it could do wonders for them.

[Whining Pussy]

actually the issue with his fuckin pants is that they should be illegal because of the traction advantage. uno shouldn't be wearin sneakers and that homo in the gi should have to wear somethin ground leveling as well.

[Oliver Klosov]

if the gi is legal you should also be allowed to carry a rope in the ring that you could choke the guy with.

[Mia]

USA would kill for quality shows like DREAM.

*sighs*

[EndlessFighter]

DSE and FEG has never even attempted to really cater their product to the US market other than a few minor changes in music and production. I don't think they are going to start soon.

[GlassJaw]

They are offering Gilbert Yvel a contract for a fight in November. Keep hope alive ?

Misnomer.

[Pleeb]

FEG is at the point where they have to cut losses to continue. I understand the reasoning. If it's no longer profitable they shouldn't continue doing it. FEG's not a soup kitchen what would you expect?

[ilostmydog]

if the gi is legal you should also be allowed to carry a rope in the ring that you could choke the guy with.

When the hell did they ban choking ropes? :mad: This sucks.

[DCBooks]

They are offering Gilbert Yvel a contract for a fight in November. Keep hope alive ?

Giving a contract to Yvel stifles any hope I could ever have unless he's in to the death match with Mike Kyle.

[5acrossYOeye]

Is DREAM going to make it through 09?

[Pleeb]

Doubtful. K-1 brand is sort of in sustaining mode too. K-1 is still the bread winner. Dream is struggling.

[S.R.]

If DREAM dies, do you think FEG will bring back Hero's in a smaller form, or do you think they'll just do away with any and all MMA?