Judah Vs. Gatti!?!

[Johnny Toetags]

Judah: I'll fight Gatti!

BROOKLYN, N.Y.?Newly crowned undisputed world welterweight champion Zab ?Super? Judah has learned that World Boxing Council super lightweight champion Arturo ?Thunder? Gatti was unable to reach an agreement to fight ?Pretty Boy? Floyd Mayweather on June 11 on HBO Pay-Per-View and is calling out Gatti to fight at any weight.

?Arturo Gatti is one of the most exciting fighters in the ring today, and I?d welcome the opportunity to fight him on June 11 at any weight,? Judah said. "I?m available anytime, anyplace and at any weight to fight the best fighters in the world.?

Judah?s promoter, Don King, echoed his fighter?s sentiments and took it one step further.

?Zab would love to fight Arturo Gatti, and if that can?t get done he?d be willing to fight Floyd Mayweather, too,? an emphatic King said. ?I look forward to discussing this further with Arturo?s promoter Main Events. I know Arturo is courageous, but is he courageous enough to step in the ring with Zab Judah."

?Furthermore, is his promoter willing to pit the courgeous Gatti against the invincible Judah? I?m willing to do it. Are you willing to give this to the public, Main Events?"

Gatti (39-6, 29 KOs) had planned to announce his fight with Mayweather (33-0, 22 KOs) had as early as Jan. 29 at the post-fight press conference after Gatti stopped Jesse James Leija in Atlantic City. The fight was unable to be finalized and was scrapped on Friday.

Judah (33-2-1 NC, 24 KOs) scored a ninth-round technical knockout over Cory ?The Next Generation? Spinks in St. Louis on Feb. 5 in front of the largest crowd to witness a boxing match at an indoor arena (22,370) to become the undisputed world welterweight champion


credit InsideFigthing.com and AP.

[BADrew]

Judah SHOULD beat the piss out of Gatti. Gatti's chin is overrated (his recovery skills are very good, not his ability to take a punch). He can't deal with slick, fast fighters either. But Zab could get really stupid when he gets comfortable hitting Gatti with ease. Zab could be in for some trouble if he decides to be himself ( a punk)

[Johnny Toetags]

IF this happens it'll be a hell of a fight for sure, but I tend to agree with you.

[CROKICK]

Judah by bloody beatdown if this fight happens. He is far to skilled and quick for Gatti. Gatti could land a big shot on Zab if Judah gets too cocky but I dont see him staying down if it happens. At worst Judah should get a wide decision.

[BADrew]

Judah has a real shitty chin. Jan Bergman and Cory Spinks (who couldn't pop a zit between them) knocked him down. Tszyu is the only harder puncher than Gatti that Zab has faced and he was face down on the mat in 2 rounds. Regardless of skill, Gatti can hurt Zab.

[Johnny Toetags]

How's Judah's body anyways? I know his conditioning is aces but if Gatti crowded him, fought close, worked the body...?

[Oliver Klosov]

Zab will hit him so many times that the Doctor will end up stopping this because of swelling or cuts.

[BADrew]

Zab can and will hit him anywhere but will concentrate on the head. Like I said, as long as he doesn't get overconfident he'll be fine.

[elgigante]

Read on Sherdog that Gatti/Mayweather is now back on again for June 25th. Apparentyl they came to terms today

[DrOctagon]

Read on Sherdog that Gatti/Mayweather is now back on again for June 25th. Apparentyl they came to terms today


Fuck. I was hoping that Gatti would fight Witter, from purely a patriotic P.O.V of course. I see this fight as Mayweather putting on a clinic and winning on a landslide points decision. Oh how I hope i'm wrong, i don't think i will be though.

[Johnny Toetags]

Fuck. I was hoping that Gatti would fight Witter, from purely a patriotic P.O.V of course. I see this fight as Mayweather putting on a clinic and winning on a landslide points decision. Oh how I hope i'm wrong, i don't think i will be though.


Yeah I agree. I've been pushing for Gatti seems like forever now, everytime he comes home it's a big event in the boxing community but anyways - Judah OR Mayweather will hand him a loss, I think. :(

[Necrocide]

I think this should be a very interesting fight. Good chance for Gatti to show hiw newfound "boxing skills" that have been drilled into his head and practiced on guys like Dorin and Leija. While Judah is chinny and a headcase, he's quite a few levels above those two.

Gatti can't afford to be pulled into a Ward-esque war against Judah, and the temptation is going to be there. When you're fighting a guy that Corey Spinks knocked down, you have to be confident in your chances.

If Gatti can balance his power shots with boxing skills, I think he's tough enough to survive Judah and get a late knockout or a decision. If Gatti gets pulled into a war, he's going to be stopped about halfway through the fight, either on cuts or a knockout.

[Kornhusker]

As much as I would like to see crazy legs do his dance again I don't think Gatti has the tools to make him do it.

[Shaolin Bushido]

Fuck. I was hoping that Gatti would fight Witter, from purely a patriotic P.O.V of course. I see this fight as Mayweather putting on a clinic and winning on a landslide points decision. Oh how I hope i'm wrong, i don't think i will be though.Mayweather is gonna beat the piss out of Gatti. I wonder what the problems were in getting it done in the first place ... besides Gatti not wanting to absorb yet more punishment that he doesn't need before retiring. I assume he wants to ensure he can retire on the purse.

Just in case.

Oh yeah. Judah would beat him too but nothin like Mayweather will. I think we all will be cringing till the ref steps in.

[BADrew]

Judah hits harder and has all the talent of Mayweather (well, almost) but isn't nearly the complete package that Floyd is. Judah has weak spots that would give Gatti a chance (just not a great one) but Floyd is Gatti's worst fucking nightmare. Gatti has zero chance against him and I rarely say that about anyone. Mayweather is the perfect style jinx for Arturo.

[Kornhusker]

Judah hits harder and has all the talent of Mayweather (well, almost) but isn't nearly the complete package that Floyd is. Judah has weak spots that would give Gatti a chance (just not a great one) but Floyd is Gatti's worst fucking nightmare. Gatti has zero chance against him and I rarely say that about anyone. Mayweather is the perfect style jinx for Arturo.






Up for making a bet on that?

[BADrew]

Anything you want. Its rare I'm this confident in pickin a winner. No one ever has zero chance but Arturo has close to zero against Floyd.

[Shaolin Bushido]

Up for making a bet on that?You know something we don't know?

[Kornhusker]

You know something we don't know?


I just think the first person to beat Floyd(other than Castillo) will be someone that is willing to take 2 to land 1. Gatti is that guy.

[Oliver Klosov]

I just think the first person to beat Floyd(other than Castillo) will be someone that is willing to take 2 to land 1. Gatti is that guy.

Tszyu, Tszyu, Tszyu!!!!!!!!!1

[BADrew]

I just think the first person to beat Floyd(other than Castillo) will be someone that is willing to take 2 to land 1. Gatti is that guy.

Diego Coralles, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo. They all tried that and failed. YOu need to look at the styles of the fighters. Gatti has this new thing where he's back to being a boxer-puncher over a brawler. It will last until he faces someone he can't outbox. Thats Floyd by a longshot. He'll then resort to brawling and get eaten up worse. He couldn't land the big one on far inferior fighters to Floyd in Manfredy and Robinson. He couldn't even outbrawl Joe Hutchinson. Floyd's hands are lighting fast and Gatti has NEVER been able to get away from a fast-handed fighter. Mayweather can move very well and Gatti has always had trouble with cuties. Mayweather has one of the best defenses in boxing and an excellent chin. Some people are saying that Gatti's size may be an inssue. They are both former 130lbers fighting at 140lbs, size is no issue. The issue is that Mayweather is faster, a better technician, has better defense, a better chin, has beaten p4p fighters before (Gatti hasn't), better defense. He doesn't have Gatti's one-punch power. Trust me, it won't matter.

A simple "he's willing to take 2 to get in 1" is not a very compelling argument. So please offer me your bet.

[CROKICK]

Diego Coralles, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo. They all tried that and failed. YOu need to look at the styles of the fighters. Gatti has this new thing where he's back to being a boxer-puncher over a brawler. It will last until he faces someone he can't outbox. Thats Floyd by a longshot. He'll then resort to brawling and get eaten up worse. He couldn't land the big one on far inferior fighters to Floyd in Manfredy and Robinson. He couldn't even outbrawl Joe Hutchinson. Floyd's hands are lighting fast and Gatti has NEVER been able to get away from a fast-handed fighter. Mayweather can move very well and Gatti has always had trouble with cuties. Mayweather has one of the best defenses in boxing and an excellent chin. Some people are saying that Gatti's size may be an inssue. They are both former 130lbers fighting at 140lbs, size is no issue. The issue is that Mayweather is faster, a better technician, has better defense, a better chin, has beaten p4p fighters before (Gatti hasn't), better defense. He doesn't have Gatti's one-punch power. Trust me, it won't matter.

A simple "he's willing to take 2 to get in 1" is not a very compelling argument. So please offer me your bet.

Good post filled with all the FACTS for why Gatti will get mauled. You are correct, Gatti would have a better matchup with anyone else other than Mayweather. Floyd does all the things Gatti cant handle 10 times better than any of the guys who have made Gatti look silly in the past.

[Shaolin Bushido]

I just think the first person to beat Floyd(other than Castillo) will be someone that is willing to take 2 to land 1. Gatti is that guy.Yeah but his face can't take it. He will be cut, bleeding and swollen when it's stopped. He's been coached the last 5 or 6 fights to box. He will have to turn it into a fight to beat Mayweather.

[Shaolin Bushido]

Good post filled with all the FACTS for why Gatti will get mauled. You are correct, Gatti would have a better matchup with anyone else other than Mayweather. Floyd does all the things Gatti cant handle 10 times better than any of the guys who have made Gatti look silly in the past.Yeah. I should've read it before my post.

[Kornhusker]

Diego Coralles, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo. They all tried that and failed. YOu need to look at the styles of the fighters. Gatti has this new thing where he's back to being a boxer-puncher over a brawler. It will last until he faces someone he can't outbox. Thats Floyd by a longshot. He'll then resort to brawling and get eaten up worse. He couldn't land the big one on far inferior fighters to Floyd in Manfredy and Robinson. He couldn't even outbrawl Joe Hutchinson. Floyd's hands are lighting fast and Gatti has NEVER been able to get away from a fast-handed fighter. Mayweather can move very well and Gatti has always had trouble with cuties. Mayweather has one of the best defenses in boxing and an excellent chin. Some people are saying that Gatti's size may be an inssue. They are both former 130lbers fighting at 140lbs, size is no issue. The issue is that Mayweather is faster, a better technician, has better defense, a better chin, has beaten p4p fighters before (Gatti hasn't), better defense. He doesn't have Gatti's one-punch power. Trust me, it won't matter.















A simple "he's willing to take 2 to get in 1" is not a very compelling argument. So please offer me your bet.




The same things could be said about a lot of matchups throughout history. Sometimes it means fuckall, and I have a feeling that this one will be that way. If it all came down to skill and natural ability Shane Mosley and Roy Jones would still be undefeated. Sig and Av for a month?

[DrOctagon]

Diego Coralles, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo. They all tried that and failed. YOu need to look at the styles of the fighters. Gatti has this new thing where he's back to being a boxer-puncher over a brawler. It will last until he faces someone he can't outbox. Thats Floyd by a longshot. He'll then resort to brawling and get eaten up worse. He couldn't land the big one on far inferior fighters to Floyd in Manfredy and Robinson. He couldn't even outbrawl Joe Hutchinson. Floyd's hands are lighting fast and Gatti has NEVER been able to get away from a fast-handed fighter. Mayweather can move very well and Gatti has always had trouble with cuties. Mayweather has one of the best defenses in boxing and an excellent chin. Some people are saying that Gatti's size may be an inssue. They are both former 130lbers fighting at 140lbs, size is no issue. The issue is that Mayweather is faster, a better technician, has better defense, a better chin, has beaten p4p fighters before (Gatti hasn't), better defense. He doesn't have Gatti's one-punch power. Trust me, it won't matter.

A simple "he's willing to take 2 to get in 1" is not a very compelling argument. So please offer me your bet.


(sig material if it wasn't so long)

You summed it up comprehensively.

[Shaolin Bushido]

How will he handle Mayweather if he couldn't maintain the pace with DLH? Oscar can bang but Mayweather will earn a stoppage too if only because ... well, it's generally not regarded well by the ref if your head is vibrating back and forth like a speed bag.

I wish I could find that tape of that fight. Gatti and everyone watching realized he was outclassed in that one. I think that if he tries to box Mayweather and can't at some point, "make it a fight" instead he will be creamed.

[elgigante]

Mayweather KO 5. And only that far because Arturo is a warrior

[BADrew]

The same things could be said about a lot of matchups throughout history. Sometimes it means fuckall, and I have a feeling that this one will be that way. If it all came down to skill and natural ability Shane Mosley and Roy Jones would still be undefeated. Sig and Av for a month?

u got it **Drew shakes hands**

Jones didn't lose a real matchup until he was 34 or 35. Mosley didn't lose because of getting caught, he lost from fighting bigger and better boxers. Shane was only ranked no 1 p4p because people at the Ring can't evaluate styles and see weaknesses in dominant performances. He was never really the best but I can explain that one at another time.