TUF Finale Event Prelims Discussion *SPOILERS*

[Oliver Klosov]

okay, this starts in about 20 minutes.

Footstomp away.

Zacher, dry your tears.

[Z A C H E R]

cam winning so far

[Z A C H E R]

and loses with seconds left :(

[Z A C H E R]

Round 1 - Sent avoids an early leg kick as the fighters patiently circle. Dollar connects on a right, but Dent fires back with a leg kick and then another. Dollar throws a combo but comes up short, but the following combo finds it marks and forces Dent to retreat. A big lunging right then lands for Dollar, but Dent keeps pushing forward. Dent fires off a leg kick, but it's blocked and Dollar drops him with a solid uppercut. Dollar follows and connects on a few additional blows before Dent gets back to his feet. Dollar fakes high and then tags Dent with a right hand to the belly. Dent connects on a leg kick, but Dollar counters with another uppercut. Dollar's reach continues presenting problems, and a big looping right hits Dent in the side of the head. A series of uppercuts and right hands send Dent crashing to the cage, but he stays on his feet before he's pushed to the mat. Dollar waits for him to get back up and then shoots. Dent collapses on top of him, locks in a north-south choke, and the crowd awes at the mistake Dollar just made. With 30 seconds to go, Dent clings to the choke and finally forces the tapout with just seconds remaining in the round.

[Oliver Klosov]

JASON DENT VS. CAMERON DOLLAR

Round 1 - Sent avoids an early leg kick as the fighters patiently circle. Dollar connects on a right, but Dent fires back with a leg kick and then another. Dollar throws a combo but comes up short, but the following combo finds it marks and forces Dent to retreat. A big lunging right then lands for Dollar, but Dent keeps pushing forward. Dent fires off a leg kick, but it's blocked and Dollar drops him with a solid uppercut. Dollar follows and connects on a few additional blows before Dent gets back to his feet. Dollar fakes high and then tags Dent with a right hand to the belly. Dent connects on a leg kick, but Dollar counters with another uppercut. Dollar's reach continues presenting problems, and a big looping right hits Dent in the side of the head. A series of uppercuts and right hands send Dent crashing to the cage, but he stays on his feet before he's pushed to the mat. Dollar waits for him to get back up and then shoots. Dent collapses on top of him, locks in an anaconda choke, and the crowd awes at the mistake Dollar just made. With 30 seconds to go, Dent clings to the choke and finally forces the tapout with just seconds remaining in the round. Jason Dent def. Cameron Dollar via submission (anaconda choke) - Round 1, 4:46.

[DCBooks]

cam winning so far

What's the over under that he will cry win or lose?

[Oliver Klosov]

What's the over under that he will cry win or lose?

crying right now.

[Z A C H E R]

ugh, man I just got like ten texts on how Cam was kicking the shit out of him to and just mae a stupid mistake. I hope the UFC invites him back.

[Rumbin]

Impartial views im sure

[Oliver Klosov]

Impartial views im sure


the junkie did say that he dropped him with an uppercut.

[Z A C H E R]

at 4:56 of the round, damn man

[Z A C H E R]

My other good friend lost last night too

[Rumbin]

I could give a shit, I actually figured Cameron was gonna win and picked him in the Pick Em's, Im just glad we might see another fight

[Oliver Klosov]

he couldn't hold on for 4 more seconds?

[Z A C H E R]

Man you ever been in a deep choke, I am sure he wasnt aware 4 seconds, man.


Well looks like Dent's experience won it, but hopefully they see cam has potential and invites him back.

[Rumbin]

The reading skill must be lost on a few of you because unless they cut the rounds down to 4:50 he had 14 seconds left

[Oliver Klosov]

Man you ever been in a deep choke, I am sure he wasnt aware 4 seconds, man.


Well looks like Dent's experience won it, but hopefully they see cam has potential and invites him back.

yes.

and he should be prepared to pass out, anyhow.

[Oliver Klosov]

The reading skill must be lost on a few of you because unless they cut the rounds down to 4:50 he had 14 seconds left

I should have known better than to trust Zacher's post

[Z A C H E R]

says 4:56 on junkie

[Oliver Klosov]

my post was copied and pasted from the junkie and says 4:46

but they have now changed it.

[Rumbin]

The Junkie also has "Sent" in the first sentence

Ill go with 4:46 from Sherdog

[Oliver Klosov]

NICK OSIPCZAK VS. FRANK LESTER

Round 1 - Lester with early low and body kicks before the pace slows. Osipczak blocks a kick and then pushes forward to put Lester on his back. Osipczak takes side control upon hitting the mat. Lester, though, quickly gets back to his feet. Osipczak clinches and keeps him pushed against the cage and wrestles for position before landing a quick right forearm strike. Lester reverses the position after getting underhooks and presses his opponent into the cage and then lands a foot stomp. Osipczak again reverses the position before the referee finally restarts the action. The fighters take turn trading and blocking kicks before Lester takes his opponent's back and tries to suplex him. Osipczak fends it off, scrambles and then drops to the mat with a guillotine choke. After a scramble, he then takes his opponent's back and quickly forces a tapout via rear-naked choke. Nick Osiczak def. Frank Lester via submission (rear-naked choke) - Round 1, 3:40.

[Oliver Klosov]

Frankie just ain't that great.

[Z A C H E R]

The Junkie also has "Sent" in the first sentence

Ill go with 4:46 from Sherdog


cool

[Rumbin]

PRELIMS!!!!

YES

[Oliver Klosov]

I didn't catch a fistpump in there.

[SupaMayne]

he couldn't hold on for 4 more seconds?

It's hard to tell how much time you have left when you're getting choked out. I knew Dent was going to win, face better competition and is way more experience. Dollar has a bright future though.

It's a tall task for a young 22 year old with only 3 fights expereicne facing a fighter with almost 30 fights who fought some of the best out there.

[Oliver Klosov]

It's hard to tell how much time you have left when you're getting choked out. I knew Dent was going to win, face better competition and is way more experience. Dollar has a bright future though.

which is why they hit the clapper with 10 seconds left and your corner needs to be on top of it and telling you the time situation.

[SupaMayne]

which is why they hit the clapper with 10 seconds left and your corner needs to be on top of it and telling you the time situation.

Honestly have you trained before? Let alone been in any kind of choke hold?

[Z A C H E R]

Honestly have you trained before? Let alone been in any kind of choke hold?


exactly, easy shit to say, but there is so much going on in your head, especially fighting in the UFC I am sure. I know fighting on podunk shows is hard, and his corner is good too.

[Oliver Klosov]

Honestly have you trained before? Let alone been in any kind of choke hold?

yes. and I've allowed myself to be choked until I passed out before.

[SupaMayne]

yes. and I've allowed myself to be choked until I passed out before.

Well then you should know that once you are caught deep in a chokehold that it doesn't matter about anything going on in the background. Hell a bomb could explode 30 feet away from you and you're mind wouldn't on the bomb.

[Oliver Klosov]

Well then you should know that once you are caught deep in a chokehold that it doesn't matter about anything going on in the background. Hell a bomb could explode 30 feet away from you and you're* mind wouldn't on the bomb.

*your

and you should know that plenty of fighters hold on at the end of a round.

[SupaMayne]

and you should know that plenty of fighters hold on at the end of a round.

Doesn't mean they knew how much time was left in the round, they were just lucky it ended before they would eventually tap. And stop correcting my grammar/spelling mistakes, I'm drunk so fuck off.

[Oliver Klosov]

long time between fights here.

[Oliver Klosov]

Doesn't mean they knew how much time was left in the round, they were just lucky it ended before they would eventually tap. And stop correcting my grammar/spelling mistakes, I'm drunk so fuck off.

stop making them.

[SupaMayne]

stop making them.

Buy me a beer for my birthday and I wont.

[S.R.]

Young MMA fighters with silly haircuts and tons of tattoos are a dime a dozen. I don't think Dollar is anything different just because he was on a reality show. There are so many other guys who would better fill a UFC roster than him. Let him go out and get some more experience and get better before he's allowed in the big show.

[Oliver Klosov]

Buy me a beer for my birthday and I wont.

I did, but I realized it wouldn't make it to Canada still cold, so I drank it.

[Rumbin]

MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ VS. TOMASZ DRWAL

Round 1 - Little action early until the fighters clinch and hit the fence 45 seconds into the round. Drwal gets underhooks and puts Ciesnolevicz on his back. Drwal frees a leg and works from half guard as he presses his opponent into the cage. Ciesnolevicz scrambles and gets back to his feet, and Drwal can do little to stop him. Back to the center of the cage, Ciesnolevicz fires off a nice body kick. Drwal clinches, gets underhooks and again puts Ciesnolevicz on his back. He quickly follows with a flurry of punches before Ciesnolevicz muscles his way back to his feet. Drwal, though, puts him right back down. Drwal lands a couple big blows as Ciesnolevicz gets back to his feet with a big right landing with a thud. Drwal backs off and looks a bit winded. After another clinch, Drwal unloads a flurry of big blows as Ciesnolevicz covers up against the cage. He keeps ticking, though, and Drwal is forced to clinch again before Ciesnolevicz breaks free for to restart in the center of the cage. Drawl lands a leg kick. Ciesnolevicz lands a swift left jab, but Drwal fires off another flurry and then drops Ciesnolevicz with a knee to the grill. Ciesnolevicz slowly falls to his back, appearing in slow motion. Drwal follows with a barrage of punches to force the stoppage just before the round expires.

[SupaMayne]

I did, but I realized it wouldn't make it to Canada still cold, so I drank it.

Understandable, atleast drink one for me homie.

[Oliver Klosov]

Labatt is always skunked here.

[Z A C H E R]

Young MMA fighters with silly haircuts and tons of tattoos are a dime a dozen. I don't think Dollar is anything different just because he was on a reality show. There are so many other guys who would better fill a UFC roster than him. Let him go out and get some more experience and get better before he's allowed in the big show.

Trolls on the internet are a dime a dozen

[SupaMayne]

Labbatt isn't usually my beer of choice, it was on sale today so I bought it.

[Oliver Klosov]

I like Labatt Blue. In Michigan it usually wasn't skunked. In Texas it almost always is.

[Z A C H E R]

Man I want a beer so bad, lol.

[Oliver Klosov]

Man I want a beer so bad, lol.

too bad you're straight edge

[DCBooks]

Trolls on the internet are a dime a dozen

We actually get them in bulk at Costco.

[SupaMayne]

I like Labatt Blue. In Michigan it usually wasn't skunked. In Texas it almost always is.

Brahma, or Red Stripe is usually what I drink the most.

[Oliver Klosov]

We actually get them in bulk at Costco.

Sometimes they fight back

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/bigtire99/Babes/Treasure_Trolls.jpg

[Z A C H E R]

We actually get them in bulk at Costco.

ha

[Oliver Klosov]

BRAD BLACKBURN VS. EDGAR GARCIA

Round 1 - Kim Winslow gets things started, and we're underway. Blackburn lands a nice one-two combo that staggers Garcia just seconds into the back. Garcia quickly answers, but Blackburn again connects. Garcia clinches, Blackburn shoves him away, but Garcia then scoops up his opponent up over his head and slams him to the mat. Wow. Blackburn quickly gets back to his feet, though, and this already-exciting bout continues. The fighters trade jabs and smile as they do so. Both guys striking with remarkable speed. Garcia lands a nice one-two to the chest before blocking a body kick. Garcia connects on a right as Blackburn closes the distance. The fighters trade shots at the exact same time and then smile and wink at each other. Again, the fighters trade shows, and Garcia starts to get the better of it. Blackburn, though, doesn't budge and continues trying to time his shots. More punches from both fighters, but they remain just out of range. Blackburn goes low with a kick and then lands a nice one to the body. Garcia lands a glancing right on the subsequent exchange and unloads a quick flurry that forces Blackburn to cover up as the round ends. Fantastic first round. MMAjunkie.com scores it 10-9 for Garcia.

[Oliver Klosov]

Round 2 - Blackburn gets an additional minute to recover from the knee to the groin before the second round begins

[Oliver Klosov]

Round 2 - Blackburn gets an additional minute to recover from the knee to the groin before the second round begins. The fighters again take to the center of the cage and trade punches. They match each other strike for strike while waiting for the home-run shot. Garcia strikes first with a nice blow that delights the crowd. Blackburn lands a shot the head before retreating. Garcia pushes forward but retreats, and we start again. Blackburn with a lot of head movement and footwork as he awaits an opening. Garcia backs him off by feigning a left. Garcia complains of a kick to the groin, and we have a brief timeout. Garcia fires off a couple nice low kicks before eating a jab when he comes in for a third. However, he catches Blackburn with two quick straight punches. Blackburn connects on a leg kick, but Garcia shakes it off. Blackburn gets tripped up while looking for an opening and briefly retreats before the fighters take the center of the cage again. Garcia lands a low kick of his own before the fighters each connect on a quick hook to the other's face. MMAjunkie.com scores a close round for Garcia, 10-9.

[Oliver Klosov]

Round 3 - The fighters again take to the center of the cage and patiently trade single shots. Garcia lands a nice jab, but the pace has slowed as each looks for the big shot. Blackburn connects on the tailend of a combo before partially connecting on a face kick that wakes up Garcia. Blackburn land a body kick, but Garcia staggers him with a combo and starts to stalk. The crowd senses Blackburn is hurt, and Garcia continues throwing, but Blackburn quickly regains his composure. Neither fighter will change the game plan, and the fighters throw punches but no bunches. Blackburn lands a nice combo and body kick and backs up Garcia. Garcia pushes forward with a right, but Blackburn again catches him with a combo and then a body kick. Neither fighter has even considered a takedown. Garcia now connects, and sure enough, Blackburn scores a trip takedown. Garcia gets back up and blasts Blackburn with a blow that sends a splash of blood all over both competitors, and Garcia trips to the mat before the round ends. A nice ovation for the two fighters. MMAjunkie.com scores it 10-9 for Garcia, though the fight was closer than the scores would indicate. Brad Blackburn def. Edgar Garcia via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28.). Wow. Just wow. The post-fight interview is drowned out by a steady stream of boos.

[Rumbin]

lol @ my pick ems so far

I demand a Ollie posted picks posted for tonight in the Den. PLEASE!!!!

[Oliver Klosov]

I sent them to Bishop

I'm not sure that it's up to the standard of my last pick 'em

[Oliver Klosov]

MELVIN GUILLARD VS. GLEISON TIBAU

Round 1 - The fighters collide and both miss on punches. Back to the center of the cage, and Guillard lands two quick punches before Tibau retreats. Guillard tags him again when he closes distance. Tibau shoots from halfway across the cage and puts Guillard against the cage, but the "Young Assassin" quickly reverses the position. Tibau again reverses and puts Guillard against the cage and dips for the takedown. Guillard initially fends it off before he's taken to the mat. Tibau can't keep him there, and Guillard quickly gets back to his feet. The pace slows as the fighters patiently circle. Guillard land a lunging one-two that finds its mark. Tibau though then connects on a combo of his own. Guillard lands a loud kick to the body, but Tibau forces him to the mat. As Guillard tries to get back up, Tibau scoops him and slams him to the center of the mat. Guillard braces for the takedown, though, and gets back to his feet by knocking Tibau clear off him. Guillard, looking much more patient than usual, slowly backs Tibau into the cage before delivering a shot as the round ends. MMAjunkie.com scores a close first round for Tibau, 10-9, based largely on takedowns.

[Oliver Klosov]

Round 2 - After a lull in action. Tibau again shoots from halfway across the cage and crashes Guillard into the cage. Guillard fends off the takedown, though, and delivers an elbow. Tibau dips for the double leg and then single, but Guillard balances to avoid the takedown before sending Tibau head over heels with a nifty toss. Tibau gets back to his feet, and we start again. "Melvin! Melvin!" chants begin, and the UFC's bad boy is starting to win over some fans here at The Pearl. Tibau connects on the first part of a one-two combo before he dips and shoots. Guillard fends off the takedown, but Tibau stays clinched and pins his opponent against the cage. Tibau finally gets the takedown, but Guillard gets to his feet with no damage. Guillard has now officially entered the longest fight of his UFC career, according to Scott Sherman of the Salt Lake Trib, who's sitting next to me. Guillard takes the center of the cage, and now he's perhaps being a little too patient. The pace slows before Guillard connects with a body kick. Tibau shoots and pulls Guillard's legs out from under him to get the takedown. Guillard tries to walk up the cage with his back, but Tibau keeps him on the mat as the round ends. MMAjunkie.com scores it 10-9 for Tibau based on overall octagon control.

[Oliver Klosov]

Round 3 - The final frame is underway, and Guillard needs to get busy. He connects early with a lunging shot, avoids a counter but eats the next one. Tibau then shoots and swiftly takes Guillard to the mat. Tibau frees a leg and works from half guard, but as usual, Tibau delivers no blows. However, he finally secures the mount position. Guillard pulls him close but eats a few short forearm strikes. Guillard tries to buck free, but Tibau is locked in tight with the mount position. Tibau delivers a few punches from above. Guillard initially avoids damage, but Tibau creates some distance and lands a couple nice shots. Guillard secures one leg, and Tibau works from half guard. Tibau now connects with better frequency with short punches and then puts a forearm across Guillard's neck. The crowds wants a standup, but Tibau is staying busy. Guillard bucks his way free and finally gets back to his feet. Guillard shoots himself and sends Tibau careening into the cage possibly with a case of shiplash. Tibau, though, avoids the takedown and then again takes Guillard back down, killing the energy of the crowd. Working from half guard, Tibau drops an elbow strike drom above and then works punches to the body. The strikes continue for the final 20 seconds of the fight as Tibau secures mount again. MMAjunkie.com scores it 10-9 for Tibau. Melvin Guillard def. Gleison Tibau via split decision. No scores were read. Shocking decision.

[Oliver Klosov]

no scores were read? what the fuck is that?

[Rumbin]

Shoulds like a split was the right call IMO

[Oliver Klosov]

HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!

[Rumbin]

Mega LOL @ you loaning me that vCash and opening the bet so I could sneak one in on Tibau.

Looks like a horrible decision but a split rounds about right IMO

[Oliver Klosov]

well, fake internet money doesn't grow on trees.

[Left Hook]

I have no idea who have these people are.