Gatti/Mayweather.

[Johnny Toetags]

How big will it be IF, and it's a big IF, Gatti pulls this off?


I can't help but laugh at Mayweather's smack talk. "He never beat nobody. People won't remember him!"


Fuck off. 15 years from now, even if you go undefeated for the REST of your career, people will still be talking about Arturo Gatti. Not Floyd Mayweather. Sure, your name'll be in a few record books, maybe. And good for you.


But people will remember Gatti, regadless of what happens in 2 weeks.


That said, I'll be pulling for Arturo, but I see Floyd taking this one in 8 by tko.

[The Punk]

Maywather needs to shut his big mouth. Gatti will forever be remembered as the blood and guts champion and his wars with Ward will never be forgotten. Not to mention being a part of the Ring Magazine Fights of the Year 4 times in a span of 7 years. Mayweather needs to realize that fighters aren't only remembered for their shiny belts.

"Gatti's a C+ fighter." ? Mayweather

I hope Gatti turns his lights out and shows him just what this "C+ fighter" is capable of.

My mind says Mayweather, but my heart says Gatti.

WAR THUNDER GATTI !

[Johnny Toetags]

Gatti's had plenty of wars, and not only with Ward. A W here would propel Gatti to near legendary heights I think, and if anyone's got the heart and desire to rise to the occasion, it's the boy from the Du Parc boxing club about 10 minutes down the street from here.


WAR THUNDA!!!!!!!!!!

[KD=KO]

Gatti is fucking awesome, and i've heard he's a pretty cool guy to boot. I absolutely can't STAND Mayweather Jr. He's ruining his father's name. His approach to boxing is like...a sleeping pill. I hope Gatti knocks him out.

[elgigante]

Floyd had best stick to a boxing game plan because i dont think he would dare trying to win a brawl with Arturo. That said Mayweather by UD. Anyone want a vbookie event for this?

[Johnny Toetags]

Floyd had best stick to a boxing game plan because i dont think he would dare trying to win a brawl with Arturo. That said Mayweather by UD. Anyone want a vbookie event for this?
do you even need to ask?

[CROKICK]

How big will it be IF, and it's a big IF, Gatti pulls this off?


I can't help but laugh at Mayweather's smack talk. "He never beat nobody. People won't remember him!"


Fuck off. 15 years from now, even if you go undefeated for the REST of your career, people will still be talking about Arturo Gatti. Not Floyd Mayweather. Sure, your name'll be in a few record books, maybe. And good for you.


But people will remember Gatti, regadless of what happens in 2 weeks.


That said, I'll be pulling for Arturo, but I see Floyd taking this one in 8 by tko.

Dude, if Floyd keeps going as he is he is going to be remembered as one of the best fighters ever. Sure he sucks as a person but to say he wont be remembered is silly. Gatti had wars with Ward because Gatti isnt all that good. Floyd would have shut him out all 3 times. The people that will be talking about Gatti are the same people that will be talking about Tyson and other overrated fighters. Floyd is just smacktalking, it is what fighters do. I want Arturo to win but cmon.

[KD=KO]

Dude, if Floyd keeps going as he is he is going to be remembered as one of the best fighters ever. Sure he sucks as a person but to say he wont be remembered is silly. Gatti had wars with Ward because Gatti isnt all that good. Floyd would have shut him out all 3 times. The people that will be talking about Gatti are the same people that will be talking about Tyson and other overrated fighters. Floyd is just smacktalking, it is what fighters do. I want Arturo to win but cmon.


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[CROKICK]

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Good post.

[Kamehameha]

if Gatti wins, i'll have a heartattack. Mayweather has a big mouth, and while he is a wife beating (or was it a gf?) asshole, he's doing what Ali always did: mouth off to get attention. It's his job to get people into those seats to either watch him thrash Gatti or to see his ass get whooped.

PBF is a bastard, but his skills are undeniable. While guys like Gatti help boxing by increasing popularity and giving fans the slugfests they crave, he doesn't belong in the same level as Mayweather, who's one of the best pure boxers out there now. If Gatti wins, he'll prove he's grown as a fighter but if he loses, he'll cement his position as a crowd pleasing human heavy bag. It's fine to like Gatti for what he is, and i like his fights, but to say he's on the level of someone like PBF is ludicrous............but IF he wins, he'll prove myself and others wrong. But i doubt that'll happen.

and just to give a visual, here's the fight between Gatti and Oscar De la Hoya, which imo, will be replayed on June 25. PBF has a very similar style to DLH, that quick footed rapid fire fighter which gives fits to a slower slugger like Gatti. Arturo has guts and heart, but he needs more than that to win. Unless he's picked up some solid boxing skills, he has a puncher's chance and only a puncher's chance.

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3QEUAXNSVXRGZ2Z52FS9IQ2U66

[Lobo]

I agree with Kamehameha, PBF is just in a completely different league compared to Gatti. Gatti has a puncher's chance but I just don't see it happening. I see this being a one-sided boxing clinic the likes of Winky/Trinidad (sorry for bringing that up Kam). It'll be just as fuckin boring too (no fault of Gatti's).

[Oliver Klosov]

I'll be honest here - I have only seen 1 or 2 of PBF's fights. So, I want to ask those of you that have seen him more - has his chin ever really been tested?

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Everyone says Mayweather is going to win and I can't blame them. I was going to pick Mayweather, but then I realized that the last three fights I predicted, I was completely wrong. So I'm going with Gatti. I think he'll catch Mayweather and knock him out. Sure, it's a one in a million chance, but I think it will happen. Well, I don't really. But since I think Mayweather will win and since I've been wrong three times in a row, I'll just do like George in that episode of Seinfield where he does everything against his gut instinct, and take Gatti.

[Happy Boy]

Floyd will be in total control in this and I can see him battering Gatti to a bloody mess within 8rds unfortunately. Gatti is too hittable, and even though hes tried to reinvent himself as a boxer, he isnt one, if he tries to box Floyd he wont even make it to rd8 IMO.

[Kamehameha]

Everyone says Mayweather is going to win and I can't blame them. I was going to pick Mayweather, but then I realized that the last three fights I predicted, I was completely wrong. So I'm going with Gatti. I think he'll catch Mayweather and knock him out. Sure, it's a one in a million chance, but I think it will happen. Well, I don't really. But since I think Mayweather will win and since I've been wrong three times in a row, I'll just do like George in that episode of Seinfield where he does everything against his gut instinct, and take Gatti.

even though my man Cotto beat this underdog trend going on, i don't blame u picking Gatti. who the fuck thought Hatton would win besides his fans?? Intelligence says Mayweather will rip Gatti apart, but it seems Fate may have something to say to that.

[Happy Boy]

Well in fairness everyone knew age would catch Tszyu at some stage and that Hatton is a "dont stop til you drop" type fighter, so it didnt take an expert to know that if Tszyu didnt get him out early, he was in trouble.

I just cannot see any way in which Gatti can win this. Hes too slow to get close enough to make it a war, and not skillful enough to win from the outside. A one sided pounding is on the cards.

[CROKICK]

Ive been thinking about this and there is one factor that hasnt been talked about much. Floyd has has hand problems in his career and he could break or hurt his hands on Gattis rock head. If that happens it could have a big effect on the fight and would give Gatti a chance later in the fight. We shall see.

[Happy Boy]

If Floyd messed up his hands he'd get on his bike and win the rounds jabbing and moving with his good hand IMO.

[CROKICK]

If Floyd messed up his hands he'd get on his bike and win the rounds jabbing and moving with his good hand IMO.
Sure that could happen Im just saying that is one scenario where Gattis chances are increased.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

If Floyd messed up his hands he'd get on his bike and win the rounds jabbing and moving with his good hand IMO.

But what if he breaks his legs too?

[Happy Boy]

Well then he'd be in trouble!!!

[Tauvington]

Ive been thinking about this and there is one factor that hasnt been talked about much. Floyd has has hand problems in his career and he could break or hurt his hands on Gattis rock head. If that happens it could have a big effect on the fight and would give Gatti a chance later in the fight. We shall see.

True, my friend. Very true. On the flip side, though, I think it's just as likely (maybe even more so) that Gatti will suffer a broken hand during the fight. Thunder hurts his hands all the time, doesn't it seem?

I'll never say that a boxer doesn't have a chance in any fight, but I can't imagine how Gatti is going to win this. He was twice outworked and beaten by my man Ivan Robinson (who, although armed with excellent boxing skills and good hand speed, couldn't crack an egg with his punches, and was as chinny as they come). Thunder hit Robinson with all kinds of punches over the 20 rounds that they fought, and wasn't able to stop him. Gatti was floored, cut up, and TKO'd by Angel Manfredy--a guy that Mayweather absolutely pissed all over in 2 rounds. Arturo was also knocked down and beaten by Ward the first time around. Though certainly tough, Mickey had already been defeated 11 times prior to the Gatti/Ward trilogy, had lost to every top 140 pound fighter he ever faced (Zab Judah, Vince Phillips, Antonio Diaz, etc.), and was in his upper 30's.

If you want to mention Gatti's improved boxing skills that he went back to using after McGirt took over as his trainer, I'll ask you to consider the guys that he's beaten with them. Ward, who was everything I mentioned before, plus incredibly lacking in technical skills. He had shit for a jab. A completely shot Leija, who, like Ward, had always relied on toughness rather than boxing skill. Dorrin, another guy with no jab and average hand speed, who, in addition, had never done anything at 140 pounds. Terron Millet was a very decent fighter, but only did well in this sport because of natural athleticism--like Lampley said "he's kind of a scratch 'n sniff fighter." He didn't have anything remotely close to a top-level jab, any real quickness, or ability to box and counter-punch.

My point is that Gatti won't be able to move around, jab, feint, and counter Mayweather like he did these other guys. Floyd is way too fast for him. Plus, Mayweather has been in the ring with punchers like Corrales and Castillo, and never once was he in any kind of trouble. You could mention that they're both lightweights, but it's not like Gatti started his career at 140. Millet is the only half-way-decent junior welterweight that Thunder has ever stopped inside the distance. Him KOing Floyd would shock me as much as getting struck by lightning.

That being said, good luck to Gatti (he's going to need it). Hey, I would LOVE to see him beat Mayweather's ass. Of course, I'd also like to fuck Tyra Banks. Neither scenario is very likely, I'm afraid.

[Oliver Klosov]

so, does anyone have evidence about Mayweather's chin?

[Tauvington]

Well...the fact that nobody has been able to even stun him thus far in his pro career (Diego, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Corley are just some of the fighters who have hit him on the chin) is about all I can give you, Ollie. Even if his jaw hasn't been truly "tested" yet, though, I really doubt that Gatti is the guy who's going to do it.

[Oliver Klosov]

Well...the fact that nobody has been able to even stun him thus far in his pro career (Diego, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Corley are just some of the fighters who have hit him on the chin) is about all I can give you, Ollie. Even if his jaw hasn't been truly "tested" yet, though, I really doubt that Gatti is the guy who's going to do it.


Just wondering, because for the longest time nobody had hit Roy Jones on the chin, and once he got tagged it wasn't pretty for him.

[Tauvington]

Just wondering, because for the longest time nobody had hit Roy Jones on the chin, and once he got tagged it wasn't pretty for him.

Well, don't forget about Lou De Valle, man. He tagged Roy directly on the chin during their 1998 unification fight, and Jones went down. He was considerably stunned, but had the presence of mind to clinch and hold for the rest of the round. Every round before and after the knock down, though, Jones dominated. He ended up winning a lop-sided JD, and got the chance to show that he could recover from being hurt.

[CROKICK]

True, my friend. Very true. On the flip side, though, I think it's just as likely (maybe even more so) that Gatti will suffer a broken hand during the fight. Thunder hurts his hands all the time, doesn't it seem?

I'll never say that a boxer doesn't have a chance in any fight, but I can't imagine how Gatti is going to win this. He was twice outworked and beaten by my man Ivan Robinson (who, although armed with excellent boxing skills and good hand speed, couldn't crack an egg with his punches, and was as chinny as they come). Thunder hit Robinson with all kinds of punches over the 20 rounds that they fought, and wasn't able to stop him. Gatti was floored, cut up, and TKO'd by Angel Manfredy--a guy that Mayweather absolutely pissed all over in 2 rounds. Arturo was also knocked down and beaten by Ward the first time around. Though certainly tough, Mickey had already been defeated 11 times prior to the Gatti/Ward trilogy, had lost to every top 140 pound fighter he ever faced (Zab Judah, Vince Phillips, Antonio Diaz, etc.), and was in his upper 30's.

If you want to mention Gatti's improved boxing skills that he went back to using after McGirt took over as his trainer, I'll ask you to consider the guys that he's beaten with them. Ward, who was everything I mentioned before, plus incredibly lacking in technical skills. He had shit for a jab. A completely shot Leija, who, like Ward, had always relied on toughness rather than boxing skill. Dorrin, another guy with no jab and average hand speed, who, in addition, had never done anything at 140 pounds. Terron Millet was a very decent fighter, but only did well in this sport because of natural athleticism--like Lampley said "he's kind of a scratch 'n sniff fighter." He didn't have anything remotely close to a top-level jab, any real quickness, or ability to box and counter-punch.

My point is that Gatti won't be able to move around, jab, feint, and counter Mayweather like he did these other guys. Floyd is way too fast for him. Plus, Mayweather has been in the ring with punchers like Corrales and Castillo, and never once was he in any kind of trouble. You could mention that they're both lightweights, but it's not like Gatti started his career at 140. Millet is the only half-way-decent junior welterweight that Thunder has ever stopped inside the distance. Him KOing Floyd would shock me as much as getting struck by lightning.

That being said, good luck to Gatti (he's going to need it). Hey, I would LOVE to see him beat Mayweather's ass. Of course, I'd also like to fuck Tyra Banks. Neither scenario is very likely, I'm afraid.

Awesome post Nick and great analysis overall. Youre right Thunder is more likely to break his hand but I was just looking for some weird scenario that could happen. Gatti did crush Millet but that isnt any big feat. Terrons chin is questionable and it took quite a few huge shots to put him away. People talk about how Corley hurt Mayweather but that was a big shot and it only stunned Floyd. Floyd tooled Corley pretty bad in his first fight at 140 and I dont think there are any questions that Floyd has to answer. Gatti has never faced this accurate of a puncher or this quick of a fighter. He is going to get beat up and probably stopped like he did against DLH who doesnt hold a candle to Floyds speed and accuracy.

[Tauvington]

Awesome post Nick and great analysis overall.

Yet no rep for me? :(

[elgigante]

When did Gatti have hand problems? Thats news to me honestly. Floyds are well documentted. He is almost as bad as Genaro Hernandez it seems like when it comes to hand issues

[Oliver Klosov]

When did Gatti have hand problems? Thats news to me honestly. Floyds are well documentted. He is almost as bad as Genaro Hernandez it seems like when it comes to hand issues


I know he hurt it in one of his last 3 fights, I just don't remember who the guy was.

[Tauvington]

Guys, Gatti broke his hand in the second Ward fight (punching Mickey's head), in the third Ward fight (punching Mickey's hip), and also in the 7th round against Branca.

He's injured one of his hands in 3 of his last 5 matches.

[CROKICK]

Guys, Gatti broke his hand in the second Ward fight (punching Mickey's head), in the third Ward fight (punching Mickey's hip), and also in the 7th round against Branca.

He's injured one of his hands in 3 of his last 5 matches.
Hey Nick I repped your ass, I had to spread some first. Dont think I didnt have some reps for my bud.

[Tauvington]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CROKICK again.

I'll see if I can spread some also.

[The Punk]

I've posted some Gatti fights in the Multimedia Forum for those interested. Some rarities including his 2nd and 3rd professional boxing fights.

[Global Honored]

Much appreciated Punk

[elgigante]

Much appreciated Punk

welcome. how did u find our site?

[Alfuh]

Question for those of you with more boxing knowledge than I (everyone). Would it be a good bet that this fight ends without a decision? Sportsbook seems to think its going to the judges and I can put a bet down on it. I was about to slap down a bet for the fight ending in under 11.5 rounds, but decided to consult the forum first.

[elgigante]

Question for those of you with more boxing knowledge than I (everyone). Would it be a good bet that this fight ends without a decision? Sportsbook seems to think its going to the judges and I can put a bet down on it. I was about to slap down a bet for the fight ending in under 11.5 rounds, but decided to consult the forum first.

id say its 60/40 that it goes to the cards. whats sportsbooks odds on this going to decision?

[elgigante]

Also pay attention to the undercard as the forgotten 140 lb champ Vivian Harris will be defending his 140 lb WBA title. He is a good one and should rightly be in the mix to fight the winner of this bout

[Alfuh]

Mayweather Jr vs Gatti - Super Lightweight Fight - Round Prop
Over 11.5 (-145)
Under 11.5 (+105

Those are the odds given at sports book. I guess they aren't really worth betting on :(

[Kamehameha]

i wonder how many people are gonna order this PPV? I expect big numbers, Gatti is a huge draw, w/ a lot of popular support from casual fans. Plus people who want to see Mayweather die a horrible death.

[Johnny Toetags]

Mayweather crashes Gatti presser :

http://www.insidefighting.com/betweenRoundsDisp.aspx?uid=1972


man oh MAN am I PRAYING for a Gatti win.

[Lobo]

Mayweather crashes Gatti presser :

http://www.insidefighting.com/betweenRoundsDisp.aspx?uid=1972


man oh MAN am I PRAYING for a Gatti win.



Sorry my friend, but no amount of prayer is gonna save Gatti from the thrashing that's coming to him.

[elgigante]

Gatti weighed in at 140 lbs even then immediaetly started rehydrating. He always struggles with making weight though so dont read too much into that. Mayweather weighed in at 139 lbs. thanks to fightnews for the info

[Sir Gibbs]

Gatti weighed in at 140 lbs even then immediaetly started rehydrating. He always struggles with making weight though so dont read too much into that. Mayweather weighed in at 139 lbs. thanks to fightnews for the info

Yeah i was reading earlier on today that Gatti was having real problems making the weight. Might play a factor later on in the fight.

[elgigante]

eh i dont think so. he always has had problems with the weight. It didnt affect him too bad in the Ward bouts and they were about as draining as fights comes. i think tomorrow night he will weigh about 155-160 when he steps in the ring. Thats about his weight range come fight night. Shouldnt matter though as Mayweather looks like he is primed and ready and really should take Arturo out late or cruise to a UD. Cross your fingers though and hope Floyd's balls outweigh his brains if you are a gatti fan. The only way i see Gatti winning is in a brawl

[Sir Gibbs]

eh i dont think so. he always has had problems with the weight. It didnt affect him too bad in the Ward bouts and they were about as draining as fights comes. i think tomorrow night he will weigh about 155-160 when he steps in the ring. Thats about his weight range come fight night. Shouldnt matter though as Mayweather looks like he is primed and ready and really should take Arturo out late or cruise to a UD. Cross your fingers though and hope Floyd's balls outweigh his brains if you are a gatti fan. The only way i see Gatti winning is in a brawl

I haven't seen much of Mayweather, is he the type of guy to finish a fight if he smells blood? Or is he not much of a risk taker and is happy to cruise to a decision. Do you think he'll finish Gatti is basically what i'm asking.

[CROKICK]

eh i dont think so. he always has had problems with the weight. It didnt affect him too bad in the Ward bouts and they were about as draining as fights comes. i think tomorrow night he will weigh about 155-160 when he steps in the ring. Thats about his weight range come fight night. Shouldnt matter though as Mayweather looks like he is primed and ready and really should take Arturo out late or cruise to a UD. Cross your fingers though and hope Floyd's balls outweigh his brains if you are a gatti fan. The only way i see Gatti winning is in a brawl
Even in a brawl Floyd cleans Gattis clock IMO. Floyd is more accurate and should be able to make Gatti miss with those wide shots all night. Im still not sold on Floyds toughness and Im not sure how well he will take it to the body but we will see.

[Oliver Klosov]

weigh-in pics?

[Sir Gibbs]

weigh-in pics?

This is the best i've managed to find ollie, photo's from the open press conference JTT mentioned earlier in the thread

http://www.hboppv.com/events/gatti_mayweather/cc1.shtml

[Global Honored]

I think a lot of boxing "experts" are doubting Gatti.

Mayweather has all the ability in the world. His only issues are in his head. Gatti, as eveyone knows, became the people's blood & guts champ with his brawlers mentality, putting on shows with 100 punch rounds, huge cuts and swollen eyes. His opponents looked pretty bad too. The man just doesn't quit, and can take a beating. And draws opponents into slugfests that he wins in the later rounds b/c conditioning and pain threshold. BUT...he wasn't always that type of fighter, that just got him famous. In the early days, he was a great technician to all the experts, just a bit eccentric. That didn't get him the $ that the blood and guts did. But if you have watched his last 3 fights, under Buddy McGirt, Gatti has gone back to his pugilistic roots. He's pointing rounds. He's flying around the ring actually avoiding punches. He usually jumps in and brawls for a round or two, but most of the time, he keeps it around 20 punches, and lands a good percentage. He can fight with skill. Do not count him out in this one. In fact, looking at the odds, I think he would be a nice bet. If anyone can get in Mayweather's head and challenge his "manhood", it's Thunder Gatti. And I think he can hang with him in the pure boxing rounds as well. He could shock a lot of us by actuallypulling out a JD victory.......but of course.....I'm a fan...so...perhaps I am only thinking with my heart on this one...about a boxer that is all heart! Go Arturo!

[elgigante]

GH if Gatti wins a JD ill give you 100 thousand points. i have that much faith it wont happen. Just my opinion on the matter

[Kamehameha]

the thing is, Gatti has had problems w/ slick boxers. De la Hoya beat the living shit outta him when they fought. And Mayweather has a very similar style, although not as strong (ha, the day i say Oscar is strong) but arguably faster.

unless Gatti has indeed learned more tricks and vastly improved from his whole mummy style, he'll suffer that same fate. It's not impossible, as this year of upsets have already proven, but Gatti needs a couple aces up his sleeves to pull out a W.

[Lobo]

the thing is, Gatti has had problems w/ slick boxers. De la Hoya beat the living shit outta him when they fought. And Mayweather has a very similar style, although not as strong (ha, the day i say Oscar is strong) but arguably faster.

unless Gatti has indeed learned more tricks and vastly improved from his whole mummy style, he'll suffer that same fate. It's not impossible, as this year of upsets have already proven, but Gatti needs a couple aces up his sleeves to pull out a W.



He definitely doesn't hit as hard as DLH but he's faster and harder to hit. Gatti is in for a rough beating. If he comes to brawl, Mayweather will just completely outclass him. If he tries to box, Mayweather will just completely outclass him. We'll find out soon enough. Too bad I'm stuck at work and can't watch this fight.

[Shaolin Bushido]

I'll be honest here - I have only seen 1 or 2 of PBF's fights. So, I want to ask those of you that have seen him more - has his chin ever really been tested?
Just look at Mayweather's record to find the answer to that one. He's fought as good a quality of opposition as any fighter and not been starched yet. His only Knockdown's were because of pain in his hands. He fought Jose Luis Castillo ... twice.

"Thunder" Gatti ... great name.

Great publicist. The final chapter will be written tonight in his career. More like his epitaph. Hell, he was easily outboxed ... twice by that guy from Philly; whatshisface. Manfredy embarassed him.

Seems like a nice guy but ... that doesn't mean shit in boxing. Young guy on the way up and veteran at the end of the line ... please say you didn't bet money on Gatti?

Floyd ruin his Dad's name? Crackhead and jailbird to boot! He was never more than a C fighter himself and is a buffoon as a trainer; you definitely see where Floyd gets his trash talk from but at least you can understand him, unlike his pop.

Who did his dad train that accomplished anything in boxing? He just jumped on the DLH train and rode like everyone else. He irritated Floyd to the point he had to shitcan him just so he could keep his mind on boxing and not on sneaking in the house after 11 PM.

DO NOT ALLOW ANY WOMEN OR KIDS UNDER 15 TO VIEW THIS FIGHT .... it's gonna be nasty and the trashtalk that follows will melt the ears of veteran boxing forum posting dudes.






course ... i could be wrong.heh

[KD=KO]

First off, Mayweather will not stop this fight due to a knockout. Plain and simple. He just doesn't have the power to do so.

Second, if you believe that Mayweather's boxing will keep every single one of Gatti's shots at bay through 12 rounds, you're a fucking moron. All it takes is one left hook from Gatti against a much smaller PBF.

The only way I see Floyd winning is if he plays it safe and tries to outbox Gatti. He will have to take a few shots, then get out. If he lets his pride get in the way and tries to stand with Gatti, he's going to get knocked out.

PBF could easily break his hands on Gatti's chin, considering he will be coming forward the whole time and can take anything Floyd can give him.

PBF will have to stop it on cuts/swelling, or be extremely careful while riding out the fight until it comes time to read the cards.

If you're counting Gatti out, especially with all the upsets this year, you're also a fucking moron.

[KD=KO]

First off, Mayweather will not stop this fight due to a knockout.


Knock down in the first round. Fuck, I'm eating my words.

[KD=KO]

Fuck, that sucked.

[my sex is artsy]

Pretty Boy by rape. Wowza.

[CROKICK]

Wow how suprising. Total domination.

[H]

meh, fuck it.

[ramelman]

First off, Mayweather will not stop this fight due to a knockout. Plain and simple. He just doesn't have the power to do so.

Second, if you believe that Mayweather's boxing will keep every single one of Gatti's shots at bay through 12 rounds, you're a fucking moron. All it takes is one left hook from Gatti against a much smaller PBF.

The only way I see Floyd winning is if he plays it safe and tries to outbox Gatti. He will have to take a few shots, then get out. If he lets his pride get in the way and tries to stand with Gatti, he's going to get knocked out.

PBF could easily break his hands on Gatti's chin, considering he will be coming forward the whole time and can take anything Floyd can give him.

PBF will have to stop it on cuts/swelling, or be extremely careful while riding out the fight until it comes time to read the cards.

If you're counting Gatti out, especially with all the upsets this year, you're also a fucking moron.

oh wow, right on the money! hehehe, j/k man. :D

don't sweat it, everybody's bound to be wrong. just look at harris; after the fight, the audience was so stunned, they couldn't even cheer for maussa. :D

[Lobo]

I hate to say it but did I call it or what? I won me $40 bucks. I'M FUCKIN LOADED, LOADED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ratt]

From tsn

Mayweather dominant in defeat of Gatti


Sports Ticker



6/26/2005 1:12:42 AM

ATLANTIC CITY, New Jersey (Ticker) - As he had promised, Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s lightning quick hands completely nullified Arturo Gatti's thunder.

Mayweather won the WBC super lightweight title from Gatti in dominant fashion, causing a stoppage after six one-sided rounds Saturday night at Boardwalk Hall.

Mayweather (34-0, 23 KOs) backed up a dose of brash words with an easy win, becoming a champion in just his third fight at the 140-pound division. He was relentless in his attack from the opening bell before Gatti quit on his stool after the sixth.

"Gatti was tough, strong and came to fight," Mayweather said. "I respect Gatti for letting me fight in his hometown. Tonight I was under pressure to perform well and to the best of my ability.

"I showed the people I could box and adapt to any style."





In the opening round, Mayweather was credited with the only knockdown when Gatti let his guard down. Looking for referee Earl Morton to break the action on the inside, Gatti dropped his hands and Mayweather landed two quick left hooks to the head. A third moments later caused the champ to slump against the ropes.

"The ref kept us fighting, I am not a dirty fighter," Mayweather said. "You protect yourself at all times, that's how the boxing game goes."

Despite Gatti's protests, Morton issued a standing eight-count late in the round.

"(The knockdown) threw me off, but the ref said before the fight to protect yourself at all times."

Mayweather dominated the second and third rounds with superior hand speed and combination punching and Gatti missed with a big right at the end of the third.

The 28-year-old Mayweather continued to batter Gatti with crisp combinations in the fourth and fifth. The one-sided action caused Gatti's left eye to nearly swell shut and Mayweather took advantage in the sixth.

Still unable to account for Mayweather's speed, Gatti took a dose of hard shots to the body early in the sixth and a series of combinations to the head late.

"He was too fast," Gatti said. "It was speed - he was hard to hit. I was head-hunting too much."

While a ringside doctor checked out Gatti following the round, his corner insisted on a stoppage.

"My trainer decided I was getting hit too much," Gatti said. "It was the right decision. I took too much punishment. I want to come back at 147 pounds."

Gatti dropped to 39-7 and was knocked out for the first time since 2001 when Oscar de la Hoya destroyed him in five rounds.

Mayweather also has captured titles at 130 and 135 pounds and is 14-0 in title fights. He landed 57 percent (168-of-295) of his punches, including a remarkable 63 percent (115-of-183) of his power punches.

On the undercard, Colombian Carlos Maussa captured the WBA super lightweight title with a seventh-round knockout of Vivian Harris.

Harris, who was looking for a high-profile fight in the talented 140-pound division, had his plans derailed by the unheralded Maussa (19-2, 17 KOs).

Maussa connected with a left hook to the suspect chin of Harris, who stumbled to the canvas and was counted out by referee Earl Brown 43 seconds into the seventh.

"It was a hard fight, we were prepared and we got the results we wanted," Maussa said. "I've been waiting for this chance, it was a strong shot. The big punch came at the right time."

The New York-based Harris, originally from Guyana, fell to 25-2-1.

Also on the undercard, undefeated 2000 Olympian Ivan Calderon of Puerto Rico posted a unanimous decision victory over Mexican Gerardo Verde in a 12-round minimumweight bout that featured no knockdowns.

The light-hitting Calderon (23-0) captured two of the judges' scorecards, 117-111, while a third had it 115-113. Verde, who had a late rally over the final three rounds, fell to 13-2.

In a junior welterweight contest, undefeated 19-year-old Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - the son of legendary Mexican great and former four-time champion Julio Cesar Chavez - posted a fourth-round stoppage of Ruben Galvan.

Chavez (20-0, 15 KOs) was credited with a knockdown early in the fourth, and later administered a one-sided beating before Galvan's corner threw in the towel with 38 seconds remaining in the round. A native of Indiana, Galvan fell to 21-7-2.

[Sir Gibbs]

Knew i should have bet all i have on a mayweather ko

[Necron Eloheim]

Dude was fucking awesome man. I'm glad I stayed up until 04:30 to watch it.

[Kamehameha]

i said PBF would beat Gatti just like De la Hoya did.............finally, i predict a fight right on the money. Thanks to Cotto for breaking that upset curse,:D

[Johnny Toetags]

:( :( :( :(

[Global Honored]

Me sad. Gatti, you broke my heart bro. But then again, it probably doesn't hurt as much as you do now.

Floyd has done it again. Who next? Tszyu? Hatton? Diego again?

And what about Gatti? Where does he go now? He's still a draw at the gate and for HBO, so I hope he keeps being the "people's champ." Think we can get Mickey Ward back in the ring?

[Alfuh]

I think we all knew that the outcome would be what happened last night. Its nice to hold out hope for a favorite, but there is always that nagging feeling that he's the underdog for a reason and it will take a small miracle for him to land a win. Everyone's views on this fight remind me of what everyone is saying about the saku arona fight.

Oh and if anyone hasn't gotten to see it I just got it up in multimedia :)

[Tackdaddy]

wtf? i thought gatti would of gave a good fight. i knew mayweather would win but i expected a decent fight.

[Oliver Klosov]

Me sad. Gatti, you broke my heart bro. But then again, it probably doesn't hurt as much as you do now.

Floyd has done it again. Who next? Tszyu? Hatton? Diego again?

And what about Gatti? Where does he go now? He's still a draw at the gate and for HBO, so I hope he keeps being the "people's champ." Think we can get Mickey Ward back in the ring?


no, Mickey is still haveing double vision from his fights with Gatti. Plus they are good friends now, Mickey always in Arturo's corner.

[Global Honored]

Thanks you Oliver and YES, I was being fascitious. They were never really enemies anyways, which makes the brutal trilogy even more amazing. Seeing them side by side in beds at the hospital post match was one of those images I will never forget.

But I would love to see Gatti vs. another one of his famous buddies: For you rednecks, he is simply #8. Gatti versus "Jun'ya" Let's book it! The gate is gonna be huge! Nascar meets the Fight World! Nascar Dads and Gym Rats Unite!

[The Punk]

I knew going in that Gatti had a very slim chance of winning the fight, but I never expected Mayweather to wreck him the way he did. As much as I hated watching Gatti get pounded, I couldn't help but be in awe of Mayweather. Gatti may not be the best, but he's no pushover and Mayweather made him look like one. It seemed as if everything Mayweather threw landed on Gatti.

This sums up the fight:

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[marlboro man]

Mayweather tore poor Gatti to pieces, it was nasty to watch. McGirt didn't want Gatti taking this fight but the guy's a warrior, he asked for it. Sadly it wasn't competitive for a moment. Floyd is maybe the best P4P right now.

[Tam-Tam]

First off, Mayweather will not stop this fight due to a knockout. Plain and simple. He just doesn't have the power to do so.

Second, if you believe that Mayweather's boxing will keep every single one of Gatti's shots at bay through 12 rounds, you're a fucking moron. All it takes is one left hook from Gatti against a much smaller PBF.

The only way I see Floyd winning is if he plays it safe and tries to outbox Gatti. He will have to take a few shots, then get out. If he lets his pride get in the way and tries to stand with Gatti, he's going to get knocked out.

PBF could easily break his hands on Gatti's chin, considering he will be coming forward the whole time and can take anything Floyd can give him.

PBF will have to stop it on cuts/swelling, or be extremely careful while riding out the fight until it comes time to read the cards.

If you're counting Gatti out, especially with all the upsets this year, you're also a fucking moron.
Nope, you're a fucking moron. Anyone who thought Gatti had a chance to doing anything but dieing in this fight were fucking morons. Yourself include, ya fucking moron.

Old threads rule.

[elbowsmash]

ur thread

the following people are retarded

on sherdog was one of my favorite threads

[Roughneck]

Either way.I still hate PBF.Doesnt look like he will ever be the draw that Gatti is.And with his attitude I think thats a good thing