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elgigante
06-27-2005, 09:49 PM
This is one of the least eventful drafts in a while to me. I havent even really been paying attention to it as there are so many high schoolers being drafted now that you wont be able to recognize the names as contributors for two years minimum now. Anybody got any thoughts on it or needs your team might address? I know that Bogut will probably go no 1 to Milwaukee and that the only position that is really loaded this year is PG and thats about it

Bishop
06-27-2005, 09:55 PM
i'm not sold on Bogut, but he's probably the best bet to go at this point. he'll definately be able to do more in his first year than Marvin Williams, who I, like everybody else are thinking he'll take a year or 2 before he explodes on the scene. it took Kobe, Garnett, and Jermaine O'Neal a few years before they became superstars. the Bucks need to win now, so who else other than Bogut?

tak
06-28-2005, 12:43 PM
i've never thought very highly of bogut, he'll be servicable as a center but i really doubt he'll ever make an all-star team. i'm somewhat excited because i've seen a couple mock draft with the lakers getting gerald green, who's supposed to have a huge ceiling. now, obviously mock drafts usually turn out nothing like the actual draft, but the fact that several experts think they could land him is encouraging.

elgigante
06-28-2005, 12:47 PM
If the Lakers land Green, Felton or even Jarret Jack, i think they would be in great shape. The mock draft in our local paper, the baltimore sun has them taking that kid Wright out of Texas A&M. That would be a foolish move because he is a pure shooting guard and this draft is loaded with PG's, something the Lake show desperaetly needs

tak
06-28-2005, 01:13 PM
If the Lakers land Green, Felton or even Jarret Jack, i think they would be in great shape. The mock draft in our local paper, the baltimore sun has them taking that kid Wright out of Texas A&M. That would be a foolish move because he is a pure shooting guard and this draft is loaded with PG's, something the Lake show desperaetly needs

yeah, i've noticed a lot of mock drafts don't even really pay attention to what a team needs, they just kinda put them in order of who they think are the best overall players.

Bishop
06-28-2005, 11:44 PM
oh, well, there's an NBA draft thread already and I posted in it :)

well, here's how it looks so far

#1 Andrew Bogut, C, Utah - Milwaukee Bucks
#2 Marvin Williams, SF, UNC - Atlanta Hawks

Bishop
06-28-2005, 11:49 PM
#3 Derron Williams, PG, Illinois - Utah Jazz

the Jazz, another team that needed a PG got one and he was the 2nd best PG in the draft.

Bishop
06-28-2005, 11:54 PM
#4 Chris Paul, PG, Wake Forest - New Orleans

my sex is artsy
06-28-2005, 11:59 PM
Fuck Felton.

Bishop
06-28-2005, 11:59 PM
#5 Raymond Felton, PG, UNC - Charlotte Bobcats

wow, 3 PG's in the first 5 picks and that's 3 in a row. he moved up 5 slots here

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:00 AM
I predict the Blazers to take Channing Frye at #6....they need a body in the middle

I take that back, they'll take Andrew Bynum....Portland just love taking high school players

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:06 AM
Go figure my Blazers take the first High Schooler. Give him a handgun and a dimebag now

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:07 AM
#6 Martell Webster, SG, Seattle Prep HS - Trailblazers

well, I thought they'd take a big man for the middle in either Channing Frye or Andrew Bynum, but they went for a SG....but he's a high school player and the Blazers just love picking high school players in the draft

Toronto has #7 and they need a center....Channing Frye should be going to Toronto here, which will be a heartbreaker to the Knicks who have had their eyes on Frye

Gerald Green is moving down in the boards....I wouldn't be suprised if he slides down to the Lakers and they pick him up and he turns out to be a Kobe type scorer

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:10 AM
Martell Webster's grandmom stole Chef Boyardee's hat

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:11 AM
Channing Frye = Marcus Camby. Expect the Raps to take him

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:12 AM
haha

I think the Lakers are going to be in good position to get a player they truly need....which shouldn't be hard because they need a PG, PF, or C. though I can't stand the team, I would like for Green to slip down to them and give them another scorer so Phil Jackson will have something to work with

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:13 AM
#7 Charlie Vellenueva, PF, Connecticut - Toronto

suprise pick here. alot of these players are moving up on the draft board while so many top players who were high up on so many boards are sliding down. it's all about what teams need and the same thing happened in the NFL draft with Aaron Rogers

about Vellenueva, I just don't it yet. they've got Bosh at PF, why get another PF when they need a center? are they planning on moving one of these 2 over to C?

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:15 AM
Villaneuva if he'd stop falling asleep during games would be amazing. He's got all the potential in the world, but no heart. Amazing Calhoun couldn't correct that at UConn.

Either way, the commentators should all shut the fuck up, since Bosh plays C/PF and Villaneuva is more of SF/PF. The Raps put Bosh at Center constantly last year, so drafting Villaneuva isn't that stupid. Fucking stupid nignog Stephan A Smith needs to get shot

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:15 AM
though Gerald Green is still out there, New York now gets their guy in Channing Frye....Frye should get picked here at #8

they're talking about taking May, but I see Sean May being a player that turns into Gary Trent. big guy coming out of the draft with potential and ends up not living up to expectations....same could be said for corliss williamson who turned out to be a pretty effective bench player

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:19 AM
I'm listening in on the draft through ESPN radio, so I'm just blocking out Stephen A Smith

#8 Channing Frye, C, Arizona - Knicks

they got the guy they wanted. I think this is a much better pick than May. like MSIA, he's got a build like Camby when he came out of the draft, but he should do well once he gets some muscle and an attitude

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:20 AM
edit....why do I keep thinking Baron Davis is still in New Orleans?

neg

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:20 AM
Golden State is coming up with #9 and they too need to get a player in the middle. the mock drafts are saying they will go for a SF, but I think they'll go with Andrew Bynum with their pick

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:23 AM
I'm pissed. There have been no garish suits, no ridiculous Euros, no one stabbing Stuart Scott's eyeballs out with a pen knife, etc.

Also, as for Sean May...I wonder how well he can do in the NBA with a 24 second shot clock.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:23 AM
from yahoo sports

A good source just told me the next three picks are Frye, Danny Granger and Gerald Green. So let's see how good of a source he is

Frye was the first of the 3. that means the Lakers will end up getting Gerald Green....uh oh

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:26 AM
#9 Ike Diogu, PF, Arizona State - Golden State

this guy shot up 10+ slots in the draft

come on Lakers, take Gerald Green....he'll be a perfect compliment to Kobe

no, i'm not on the Lakers band wagon, but he's the ideal pick

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:26 AM
The Warriors take Diogu!! WAR DIOGU!

He's seriously the sleeper of the draft.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:27 AM
Fuck Gerald Green, bish. Everything about him screams bust to me, and should to a knowledgeable guy like you, too.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:28 AM
Lakers should live on the edge and take Martynas Andriuskevicius.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:29 AM
Fuck Gerald Green, bish. Everything about him screams bust to me, and should to a knowledgeable guy like you, too.
if he is a bust, isn't that a good thing to me? I'm a Kings fan

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:30 AM
other SF's still available are Hakim Warrick and Danny Granger

Sean May coming in to the Lakers and winning now? I don't think May's the type of player who will turn out being a star in the NBA. he'll be average in the NBA

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:31 AM
#10 Andrew Bynum, C, St. Joseph High School - Lakers

well, they've taken care of 1 area they need help at and they've got themselves a huuuuge young body.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:35 AM
top 5 currently available
1. Gerald Green, SF
2. Hakim Warrick, SF
3. Antoine Wright, SG
4. Danny Granger, SF
5. Yaroslav Korolev, SF

this draft is loaded with SF's....alot of slashers and potential scorers

outside looking in....
- Rashad McCants, SG
- Sean May, PF
- Francisco Garcia, SF
- Joey Graham, SF (most athletic player in the draft)

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:35 AM
We learn that Andrew Bynum loves Tim Duncan and physics...wow. Just... ...wow.

Also, Danny Granger needs to be picked soon.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:36 AM
The Warriors take Diogu!! WAR DIOGU!

He's seriously the sleeper of the draft.
Diogu is definately the top PF in this years class. all this talk about Sean May, Sean May, Sean May....while May is struggling to establish position in the post, Diogu will be the #2 scorer for the Bobcats and will be dominant in his first year averaging close to a double double

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:40 AM
#11 Fran Vasquez, PF, Spain- Orlando

thought they'd go for a SF with Hill being injury prone and their backup being Stacey Augmon

this guy wasn't even in my radar. I don't know much about him other than what I just heard on the radio. they took Dwight Howard last year, PF, and another PF this year?

somebody help me out here

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:42 AM
I LOVE how when Tirico said "There is another international player here..." and they showed him, he didn't even try to pronounce "Martynas Andriuskevicius"

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:43 AM
Vazquez played in the ACB league, averaged around 10/6. ACB is to the NBA what AAA is to the majors. He's a pretty safe pick. He's supposedly a center, but he's kinda thin. If he bulks up, he should be able to play center.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:44 AM
Whoever is taken by the Clippers should jump into the black hole of non-existance immediately.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:45 AM
#12 Yaroslav Korolev, SF, Russia- Clippers

I've heard this guy is similar to Kirilenko

this years draft is loaded with skilled and talented foreign players. probably the deepest pool of foreign players

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:46 AM
Vazquez played in the ACB league, averaged around 10/6. ACB is to the NBA what AAA is to the majors. He's a pretty safe pick. He's supposedly a center, but he's kinda thin. If he bulks up, he should be able to play center.
230lbs thin. I'm not knocking the guy. I'm sure this guy can play and I'm sure he'll play much better defense than Dirk. also, when the Magic run small, they'll have both Howard and Vazquez out there which could make for exciting basketball

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:47 AM
Clips take Korolev. Goodbye, Korolev.

Now, who will the Bobcats take with pick numero deux?

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:47 AM
Whoever is taken by the Clippers should jump into the black hole of non-existance immediately.
if the Clippers can just some how keep their players instead of getting rid of them after a few years, they could put together a contender for the #8 spot in the playoffs. they just need to cut down on the thuggish bullshit and play the fucking game

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:49 AM
Now, who will the Bobcats take with pick numero deux?
Danny Granger or Rashad McCants

tak
06-29-2005, 12:51 AM
bish, you're a giants fan AND a kings fan?!! i don't know if we can be e-friends anymore.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:51 AM
#13 Sean May, PF, UNC - Bobcats

won't be getting much playing time behind Emeka. another team that could go small. I would have thought they would have gone for either a SF or a SG. Keith Bogans being their starting SG? Gerald Wallace as a starting SF? I guess they think they are good enough for now to draft a player for the bench

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:52 AM
bish, you're a giants fan AND a kings fan?!! i don't know if we can be e-friends anymore.
I have never lived in southern ca....I grew up in the sacramento and fresno areas....kings, 49ers, and giants were all the home teams when I was in elementary school

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:53 AM
hmmmmmm, Korolev speaks pretty damn good english. same can't be said about Peja

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:54 AM
whoa, the Bobcats turned out trade possibilities with Denver for the #20 and #22 picks for their #13 pick

I dunno, I would have taken that trade and got myself a SG and a SF at those 2 spots

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:56 AM
#14 Rashad McCants, SG, UNC - Timberwolves

well, that's all 4 UNC players and all 4 were lottery picks....daaaaaaamn. definately needed a SG

Bishop
06-29-2005, 12:58 AM
top 5 currently available
1. Gerald Green, SF
2. Hakim Warrick, SF
3. Antoine Wright, SG
4. Danny Granger, SF
5. Francisco Garcia, SF

outside looking in....
- Joey Graham, SF (most athletic player in the draft)

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 12:59 AM
I love how that fucking nignog Stephen A. Smith just started saying McCants was "The man" and was "unstoppable" and that it doesn't matter that people say he doesn't play D (which he doesn't) and that he's got an attitude problem (which he does), cause he just has to "do his thang".

Fuck Stephen A. Smith.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:01 AM
finally, Kurt Thomas is off to a good team and he deserves it. the Knicks get the #21 pick as well with Q-Rich

I think the Nets will take Martynas Andriuskevicius (C) or Linas Kleiza (PF) with the #15 pick

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:02 AM
I love how that fucking nignog Stephen A. Smith just started saying McCants was "The man" and was "unstoppable" and that it doesn't matter that people say he doesn't play D (which he doesn't) and that he's got an attitude problem (which he does), cause he just has to "do his thang".

Fuck Stephen A. Smith.
why is this guy getting air time? I really really want Michael Wilbon and Tony Cornheiser there....I just love the show, that's why

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 01:03 AM
There is NO WAY Kleiza is going this high. I love Linus Kleiza, but I can't see it.

And, Stephen A. Smith is always at drafts, being a stupid fucking douchebag. If they put Kornheiser and Wilbon at the table, it would just kick too much ass. So they have to put on Stuart Scott, King of the Uncle Toms, and Stephen A. Smith, The Black Avenger.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:03 AM
#15 Antoine Wright, SG, Texas A&M - Nets

not a bad pick here. the nets lack depth at the bench in the SG department. good pick up in case VC goes down

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:05 AM
There is NO WAY Kleiza is going this high. I love Linus Kleiza, but I can't see it
the nets need a PF and instead, I think they did the right thing for getting a back up for VC. VC is injury prone as well and their next guy Billy Thomas...yeah, good pick up here

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:09 AM
#16 Joey Graham, SF, Oklahoma State - Raptors

most athletic guy in the draft and they got themselves a jason richardson type of player. will be explosive on the run

I really like the Raptors 2 picks here in the first round. these 2 will definately do their part for this young and exciting team. Bosh won't be the only flashy and screaming player now

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 01:11 AM
Jay Bilas has now used the phrase "vibrant, bouncy athlete" three times to my count

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:11 AM
Jay Bilas has now used the phrase "vibrant, bouncy athlete" three times to my count
so, what's the word of the draft? vibrant or bouncy?

I think the Pacers will take Martynas Andriuskevicius

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:14 AM
#17 Danny Granger, SF, New Mexico - Pacers

very interesting pick here. he'll definately be the Pacers 6th man. they lose one of the greatest 3-point shooters of all time and now they are getting one of the best 3-point shooters from college....who can also grab boards and play defense

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 01:15 AM
so, what's the word of the draft? vibrant or bouncy?

I think the Pacers will take Martynas Andriuskevicius

No word has appeared more than the term "Long" other than "The" and "And". The word "long" is going to be the winner of the NBA Draft Buzzword two years in a row.

I think Bilas likes penises.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:17 AM
I'm not doing so well in my predictions here, but I think the celtics will go for a PG and Jarret Jack is the best available at the position. Gary Payton is nearing the end of his career and they might as well get a replacement now....but they could also use a SF for the bench and there are so many good SF's out there. if it's not Jack, I'll say it's Gerald Green.

Boston took Al Jefferson last year and he turned out to be a very good high school turned pro player

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:18 AM
#18 Gerald Green, SF, Gulfshore Academy Texas - Celtics

they just fucked up on the media thing there....6'11 center? oops

well, at least I got something right finally, though he was my "iffy" pick if Jack didn't get picked there

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:20 AM
top 4 currently available
1. Hakim Warrick, SF
2. Danny Granger, SF
3. Francisco Garcia, SF
4. Roko Ukic, PG

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 01:23 AM
Fuck Roko Ukic. He's like, 6'7", 160 pounds. Fuck him.

WAR GARCIA

Also, Stuart Scott just erroneous purported the myth that MJ was cut from his high school basketball team, which isn't really true per se...MJ only made the JV team, not Varsity. People act like he got cut all togther.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:23 AM
Memphis is next and I think they'll either go Danny Granger (SF) or Roko Ukic (PG). they could really use a back up PF, Wayne Simien and Linas are still out there

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:25 AM
Also, Stuart Scott just erroneous purported the myth that MJ was cut from his high school basketball team, which isn't really true per se...MJ only made the JV team, not Varsity. People act like he got cut all togther.
what a tool....note to Stuart Scott, pick up "Ultimate Jordan" and watch that a few times and then come back and comment on "your boy" Michael Jordan

#19 Hakim Warrick, SF, Syracuse - Memphis

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:28 AM
Denver's on the clock and I think they'll take Hodge from NC State. they need a SG and at #22 I think this is where Granger or Garcia goes

Mighty Feez
06-29-2005, 01:29 AM
I'm happy for Warrick, I played with him a few times too. He's a great athlete and has trmndous footwork, but I'm not quite sure how he will fit into the league. He's more of a 3 size wise but has a very mediocre jumper and mediocre ball handling skills.

He's ok with 2 or 3 dribbles attacking the rim, but anything else is an adventure for him.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 01:30 AM
ALERT ALERT ALERT

MAJOR NEWS

HAKIM WARRICK'S FAVORITE BREAKFAST CEREAL IS COOKIE CRISP

THANK YOU ESPN

BACK TO YOU, MIKE!!!$%j32io5k3

Mighty Feez
06-29-2005, 01:30 AM
I'm going with Granger next.....

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:30 AM
ALERT ALERT ALERT

MAJOR NEWS

HAKIM WARRICK'S FAVORITE BREAKFAST CEREAL IS COOKIE CRISP

THANK YOU ESPN

BACK TO YOU, MIKE!!!$%j32io5k3
the breakfast of champions

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:31 AM
oh man I am a genius

#20 Julius Hodge, SG, NC State - Denver

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:33 AM
the Knicks get the 21st pick from the Suns and they need a PG or a SF....I think they'll go with Granger (SF) or Jarret Jack (PG)

Denver should get Garcia at #22

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 01:37 AM
DID ANYONE JUST SEE BARONI BEHIND HODGE'S FAMILY!?

For real.

And, someone has to pick Francisco Garcia soon. Motherfucker is a leader, and madd clutch.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:38 AM
oh mother fucker!! they just cut off the draft and they are now having a giants game on the radio....I'm a giants fan but fuck this shit

alright, i'm off of work and i'm heading home. i'll be back on in about an hour and a half or so to do a recap of the draft

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:38 AM
DID ANYONE JUST SEE BARONI BEHIND HODGE'S FAMILY!?

For real.

And, someone has to pick Francisco Garcia soon. Motherfucker is a leader, and madd clutch.
I agree, I just hope he doesn't come off the bench for any team and I think he'll be coming off the bench for Denver :(

GNP
06-29-2005, 01:39 AM
Phoenix goes with Nate Robinson, could be interesting.

Bishop
06-29-2005, 01:39 AM
thought the Suns traded that pick to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas?

MSIA and the rest, it's up to you guys to keep the thread going

GNP
06-29-2005, 01:41 AM
thought the Suns traded that pick to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas?

MSIA and the rest, it's up to you guys to keep the thread going


Looks like that is about to happen.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 02:23 AM
Alright. I'm intrigued by the Pistons pick...picking Maxiell out of Cincinnati. I have no comment until I can see how that plays out.

I don't like the Sonics pick of Petro. Especially when Andriuskevicius was there. And when they already have Robert Swift, who was a poor pick last year.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 02:24 AM
The Heat just took Simien...shitty pick. Not cause Simien isn't good, which he is, but because him and Udonis Haslem are basically the same player.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 02:29 AM
And the New Yorkers shit a brick as the Knicks make a huge reach to take David Lee. Isaiah, you blow.

GNP
06-29-2005, 02:51 AM
And the New Yorkers shit a brick as the Knicks make a huge reach to take David Lee. Isaiah, you blow.

Man the last white guy we picked was Frederic Weis and we all know what happend to him


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2000/basketball/news/2000/09/25/usmen_france_ap/t1_carter_ap.jpg

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 03:15 AM
Man the last white guy we picked was Frederic Weis and we all know what happend to him


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2000/basketball/news/2000/09/25/usmen_france_ap/t1_carter_ap.jpg

That's the best picture you could get of VC vaulting him?

Man, I remember when Weis got picked. Everyone froze and went silent, and no one knew what the fuck to do. Great draft moment.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 03:17 AM
Atlanta took Salim Stoudemire...perfect place for him. No one will ever have to hear his belly aching and bitching, because the Atlanta Hawks don't even exist. They're a hologram of our deeper consciousness. They don't exist.

The Lakers get a great value pick in Turiaf, while the Magic get a great value pick in Andriuskevicius.

tak
06-29-2005, 08:45 PM
i'm kinda on the fence about this draft. at first i was pissed that we didn't get green with our first pick, but the more i hear about him, the more i've been hearing that he is an amazing athlete but he's got attitude and motivational problems and just isn't very skilled at basketball.

the bynum pick could either turn out to be really really good or a complete bust. one of the main complaints i've seen from lakers fan regarding this pick is that it is obviously a pick for the future and doesn't help the team right now, which i think is a pretty stupid complaint. i don't think there was a single rookie in the draft that would have gotten them to the finals in the next year or two. adding to the stupidity of the complaint is the fact that most of the people that are upset are the same people that wanted us to pick green, who not only won't be much help for at least a couple years, he also plays sf/sg, which is the last position we need.

the turiaf pick is a really good one. while it seems like everyone is split on whether or not bynum was a good pick, they all agree that turiaf was an excellent one. he's supposed to be a lot like carlos boozer, and he should be able to contribute of the bench this year.

the last pick was a disappointment. we don't need another sg and i wouldn't be suprised if he didn't even make the team.

going into the offseason we had two main needs; frontcourt presence and help at point guard. we definitely helped out our frontcourt (although it might take a couple years for it to really show) but instead of selecting a pg like ukic or gilchrist we selected a sg that we don't need.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 08:49 PM
Tak, the last think you need would be Roko Ukic. His physique is like a mop with anorexia.

tak
06-29-2005, 08:52 PM
Tak, the last think you need would be Roko Ukic. His physique is like a mop with anorexia.

that just means he's long. long = all-star.

my sex is artsy
06-29-2005, 08:58 PM
that just means he's long. long = all-star.

No.

"Long" = Good player
"Long" + "Bouncy, Vibrant Athlete" = All-Star

Doctor
06-29-2005, 11:42 PM
i just want everyone here to know how much of every other team's ass the celtics kicked with this years draft....stealing gerald green at 18 and ryan gomes at 50??!?!? get the fuck outta here. please refer to espn to review the A+ grade they were given. a true powerhouse in the making.

my sex is artsy
06-30-2005, 12:12 AM
i just want everyone here to know how much of every other team's ass the celtics kicked with this years draft....stealing gerald green at 18 and ryan gomes at 50??!?!? get the fuck outta here. please refer to espn to review the A+ grade they were given. a true powerhouse in the making.

Except Gerald Green is going to blow. And Al Jefferson and Kendrick Perkins still suck, though Jefferson may improve if he learns how to stay in the game by not fouling his man, or losing him every three seconds. Banks is decent, and Delonte West is excellent, but that doesn't spell "True powerhouse" to me.

Doctor
07-01-2005, 02:32 AM
Except Gerald Green is going to blow. And Al Jefferson and Kendrick Perkins still suck, though Jefferson may improve if he learns how to stay in the game by not fouling his man, or losing him every three seconds. Banks is decent, and Delonte West is excellent, but that doesn't spell "True powerhouse" to me.
get the fuck outta here.....going through the celts lineup and seperating banks as the only decent one truly shows how confused you are....ask any analyst, jefferson is going to be a true powerhouse bigman in the years to come. he just had his rookie season, so he needs a little coaching, what rookies don't? i can assure you he will be starting this year, and be far more jacked to deal with other nba power forwards this year. pair that with west who runs fast on the break and shoots the lights out and highschool phenom gerald green (who has been named by many as the next tracy mcgrady) coming off the bench after multiple-time all star paul pierce (who is also entering his prime) and you have a pretty quick, nasty team. and i didn't even get into fucking ricky davis, 6th man of the year WITHOUT question (look at the stats and try to argue.) the team is young, but they run and they are quick and they are nasty. give them 2 years and they will be feared in the league, mark my words.

p.s. perkins is a thug who fouls people and blount is the worst investment in the entire nba in the past 5 years. i will not defend them. but i do believe our pros far outweight those facts.

Doctor
07-01-2005, 02:33 AM
and just one more thing......if you even TRY to knock scoring gerald green at pick number FUCKING 18, you are truly and utterly confused.

tak
07-01-2005, 02:52 AM
just two minor points doctor. one, much like green is being heralded as "the next t-mac," darius miles was often called "the next kevin garnett," and look how he turned out. now i'm not saying it's guarenteed green will turn out like miles, he could very well out to be a perennial all-star. but just because the "experts" claim someone is destined for greatness, it doesn't mean its true.

secondly, ricky davis might get nice stats, but he is a headcase and a cancer of a teammate. his entire career can be summed up in the moment that he shot against his own basket just so he could get the rebound and record a triple double.

my sex is artsy
07-01-2005, 05:35 AM
get the fuck outta here.....going through the celts lineup and seperating banks as the only decent one truly shows how confused you are....ask any analyst, jefferson is going to be a true powerhouse bigman in the years to come. he just had his rookie season, so he needs a little coaching, what rookies don't? i can assure you he will be starting this year, and be far more jacked to deal with other nba power forwards this year. pair that with west who runs fast on the break and shoots the lights out and highschool phenom gerald green (who has been named by many as the next tracy mcgrady) coming off the bench after multiple-time all star paul pierce (who is also entering his prime) and you have a pretty quick, nasty team. and i didn't even get into fucking ricky davis, 6th man of the year WITHOUT question (look at the stats and try to argue.) the team is young, but they run and they are quick and they are nasty. give them 2 years and they will be feared in the league, mark my words

First of all, I said Delonte was "excellent", which far outweighs Banks being "decent".

Also, do you honestly know anything about Gerald Green? No, you don't. Nor do I. Nor does anyone. Know why? Because Gerald Green wasn't even that highly recruited for the NCAA until he lit up the ABCD camp. He has a good ABCD camp and suddenly he's T-Mac 2.0 over night? Sorry, that's not how shit works. As a basketball fan, you should know well enough how 95% of high school prep picks work, especially ones who catch fire out of nowhere.

Ricky Davis is a piece of shit, and the Celtics would honestly be better ditching him in favor of some strong role players, especially guys to help in the front court.

Also, I LIKE Al Jefferson and LIKE Marcus Banks, and LOVE Delonte West, but under the tutelage of Doc Rivers, who honestly is one of the shittiest coaches in the NBA, I feel they're not going to bloom. Boston needs to get a real fucking coach behind the bench, not some simp who single handedly let his players blow the series against the Pacers. Until they do that much, none of these players will be groomed into top flight pros, especially when some of them have the ability to be.

my sex is artsy
07-02-2005, 03:25 AM
For tak-

Andrew Bynum's myspace - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=8750639&Mytoken=20050701082028

Bishop
07-02-2005, 06:00 AM
For tak-

Andrew Bynum's myspace - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=8750639&Mytoken=20050701082028
Hair Color: dark brown/blackish
Your Perfect Pizza: PEPERONI
Your Most Overused Phrase On an instant messenger: =pjkjk=p<---ima funny fello
Your Best Physical Feature: dunno!!GURLZ HELP ME OUT ON DAT ONE!!
Your Bedtime: pssh who needs sleep, ill have plenty of time to sleep when im dead!
Pepsi or Coke: i got acme,so soda is sum shit u dont drink
MacDonalds or Burger King: ...um 1 fish 2 fish...

....and it just gets worse and worse

fucking tool

my sex is artsy
07-02-2005, 06:11 AM
You know, reading Bynum's myspace put this whole thing into perspective for me. Never had I thought of the whole prep-to-pro phenomenon in this manner...

Next year, he's going to be under the glass...banging with men. Men who have families. Wives, children. Men who were in the low post when Bynum was being taught how to piss like a big boy. Men who've been to the Olympics, men who've travelled all over the world. Men who've came from different countries, struggled through poverty, communist rule, civil unrest.

And then there is Andrew Bynum, and his "real world" experiences begin and end at the awkward high school dates at the movie theatre in Plainsboro, New Jersey.

Bishop
07-02-2005, 06:14 AM
You know, reading Bynum's myspace put this whole thing into perspective for me. Never had I thought of the whole prep-to-pro phenomenon in this manner...

Next year, he's going to be under the glass...banging with men. Men who have families. Wives, children. Men who were in the low post when Bynum was being taught how to piss like a big boy. Men who've been to the Olympics, men who've travelled all over the world. Men who've came from different countries, struggled through poverty, communist rule, civil unrest.

And then there is Andrew Bynum, and his "real world" experiences begin and end at the awkward high school dates at the movie theatre in Plainsboro, New Jersey.
and when it's all said and done, he's a NBA BASKETBALL PLAYA

*sigh*

elgigante
07-02-2005, 06:15 AM
You know, reading Bynum's myspace put this whole thing into perspective for me. Never had I thought of the whole prep-to-pro phenomenon in this manner...

Next year, he's going to be under the glass...banging with men. Men who have families. Wives, children. Men who were in the low post when Bynum was being taught how to piss like a big boy. Men who've been to the Olympics, men who've travelled all over the world. Men who've came from different countries, struggled through poverty, communist rule, civil unrest.

And then there is Andrew Bynum, and his "real world" experiences begin and end at the awkward high school dates at the movie theatre in Plainsboro, New Jersey.

well summed up. reps

my sex is artsy
07-02-2005, 06:17 AM
and when it's all said and done, he's a NBA BASKETBALL PLAYA

*sigh*

And maybe an entrapenour (sic) in the future.

pants
07-02-2005, 10:28 PM
wonder how will Deron Williams do at the Jazz?

Bishop
07-02-2005, 11:36 PM
wonder how will Deron Williams do at the Jazz?
if the Jazz can stay healthy (Kirilenko, Boozer, Harpring), I think he'll have some solid numbers for a rookie. he'll definately be a boost to the team that is seriously looking for a true point guard. Eisley and McCleod just aren't the type of players that you want running your team at the point. if Williams lives up to his hype and can play ball like the players he compared to, Utah will have another great start throughout the year like last, though injuries killed them mid-way through

tak
07-03-2005, 12:24 AM
For tak-

Andrew Bynum's myspace - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=8750639&Mytoken=20050701082028

yeah, i'd seen that. i'd seen a couple places make a big deal out of the fact that he was on the honor roll and his favorite subject was physics, then i saw his myspace page. needless to say, i was somewhat disappointed.

Doctor
07-08-2005, 11:26 PM
First of all, I said Delonte was "excellent", which far outweighs Banks being "decent".

Also, do you honestly know anything about Gerald Green? No, you don't. Nor do I. Nor does anyone. Know why? Because Gerald Green wasn't even that highly recruited for the NCAA until he lit up the ABCD camp. He has a good ABCD camp and suddenly he's T-Mac 2.0 over night? Sorry, that's not how shit works. As a basketball fan, you should know well enough how 95% of high school prep picks work, especially ones who catch fire out of nowhere.

Ricky Davis is a piece of shit, and the Celtics would honestly be better ditching him in favor of some strong role players, especially guys to help in the front court.

Also, I LIKE Al Jefferson and LIKE Marcus Banks, and LOVE Delonte West, but under the tutelage of Doc Rivers, who honestly is one of the shittiest coaches in the NBA, I feel they're not going to bloom. Boston needs to get a real fucking coach behind the bench, not some simp who single handedly let his players blow the series against the Pacers. Until they do that much, none of these players will be groomed into top flight pros, especially when some of them have the ability to be.
you're right, i don't know everything about gerald green, but i read enough to know his strengths, weaknesses, and his potential. and potential is what he is all about. and for a lowly 18th pick, i sure as fuck think a POTENTIAL tracy mcgrady 2.0 is a steal. is he a sure thing? no. am i excited about snagging him when scouts with more basketball knowledge than you or i say he could be the next big thing? yes. he is already showing some return for our investment in the summer league's first fucking game!

"Green led the Celtics with 14 points (5-9, 4-4) in just 19 minutes. His dunk over two Clippers was sensational. The rim-rattling slam came at the 9:02 mark of the second quarter, and he was fouled in the act of the dunk. He made the three-point play which increased the Celtics lead to 28-9 at that juncture. The super rookie followed this masterpiece two minutes later with an ally-oop dunk off a pretty feed from Will Bynum. "

sure, its just summer league, but thats solid play amongst players who have been in the league for at least a year already when this kid "wasn't even highly recruited" wouldn't you say?

and you are just flat out incorrect about ricky davis. BY THE NUMBERS IN EVERY CATEGORY, he was rightfully 6th man of the year this past season. the kid is instant offense. the starters are rotating and resting, next thing you know, he jumps off the bench with energy and leads the seconds string guys and gets himself 20 points. ricky is ALMOST the most valuable part of the entire team. he has had attitude problems on other teams which has been his only real weakness, but none with the celts. he is gold.

as for doc rivers, no, he isn't exactly a basketball genious, but he IS one of the best coaches for getting teams to learn to work together, and for teaching rookies fundamentals. there is no other coach i would rather see the celts with right now simply because of the ridiculous low average age for the team. we just need to learn the basic shit for now, and thats his thing. sure, having him may bite us in the ass later when we need some serious strategy, but for now, he is ideal. if you remember, he took us to game 7 with indiana, he didn't blow the whole series. 2 of our wins were blowouts, and the game 7 loss was due to intense lack of energy and apparent motivation by the players, notn the coach. we backed into the fucking playoffs this year, give them 2 years and you'll see that this situation was ideal.

elgigante
07-22-2005, 09:47 AM
Lakers good fortune continues as Rony Turiaf, their 2nd round pick out of Gonzaga will have open heart surgery for an enlarged aorta and could possibly have his career end before it starts. That sucks cause i really liked Turiaf as a player. He worked really hard