who will be the first pick in the nba lottery draft?

[tak]

the general consensus is that the bucks will pick either andrew bogut or marvin williams with the top pick. which one of the two do you think they will take, or do you think they will take a dark horse?

[Bishop]

they'll take Bogut

it just hit me that the 6th man of UNC will be going ahead of the other 3 starters of UNC in the draft....that just hit me. he's got a big upside, but it's just weird that the 6th man, will be taken #2

what I like about this years draft is the amount of PG's and C's that are possible 1st round picks. yahoo's mock draft has 2 PG's going in the first 5 picks....but they think that Portland will trade away their pick at #3. 5 or 6 possible centers will go in the first round. alot of teams will definately improve their front court for the future in this years draft.

though this years draft lacks the name and star power, but I think alot of these players will become 6th men or household names within the next year.

[Mighty Feez]

I'm guessing that they will take Bogut. Bucks seem like a team starved for quality size.

BTW.....

I've played with Andray Blatche (who went to highschool about 10 blocks from where I live) and I'm extremely unimpressed with his game. I've played with NBA level players before, and he is extremely raw and a very big gamble to take in the first round.

[tak]

if anyone's got better odds, let me know, i just kinda guessed these ones.

[Bishop]

dunno, but I just put 5000 down on bogut to go #1

Mighty Feez, a friend of mine said the same thing about Tayshaun Prince. he said that the guy wasn't impressive when he played against him during his college days in a pick up game of basketball. he said that Prince was too weak and will get manhandled in the NBA....look at him now.

it all depends on which team he goes to and this is the way I see it for most players. the team you play for will depend how good you are or can be

[tak]

fuck, i don't know how to turn the odds into fractions.

quick someone, what's -250 and +150 turn into?

[tak]

ok. everything's set. i got the odds from vegasinsider.com.

[tak]

what the fuck?! i've set the bet close time to 4:30 like 5 times and it still says it closes at 5:30.

[my sex is artsy]

Human logic says take the player they need most with with the most NBA ready game...therefore, take Bogut.

But this is the NBA, and Marvin is full of NBA Draft night buzzwords like "potential", and "length", and he plays "above the basket", and so on. So, you never know.

The NBA Draft is fun, just for when people wear ridiculous shit (Gooden, Jalen), for horror stories (Rashard Lewis, Maciej Lampe), for Hubie Brown talking in the second person ("so, you're [insert GM], and you have the 10th pick...you want to take [insert player]") and for the great buzzwords.

Last year, the buzzword was length. Everyone was long. His arms are long, his legs are long. The kids got length. His game reeks of length. He's the longest player left on the board.

[my sex is artsy]

Also, my Jailblazers traded Pick 3 for Pick 8 and 26 from the Jazz. Meaning the Jazz are about 99.9% going to take Deron Williams, and 0.1% taking Chris Paul.

Portland will now take two future criminal headcases instead of one in the first round. Hurrah!

[my sex is artsy]

Also, Bogut said on radio today. "I'm not a big white stiff. I mean, I'm white. But I'm not a stiff."

Bogut for Rookie of the Year.

[Bishop]

will atlanta take marvin williams at #2? that's one of the hot questions now. they have alot of SF's and they NEED a point guard.

how far could williams slip if he's not taken at #2?

[Bishop]

Also, my Jailblazers traded Pick 3 for Pick 8 and 26 from the Jazz
portland gets picks 6 and 27

[my sex is artsy]

portland gets picks 6 and 27

Off the dome from hours ago, son. I wasn't THAT far off.

[Bishop]

here are the comparatives by yahoo sports

Andrew Bogut
upside - brad miller, raef lafrenzt
downside - chris kaman
role - immediate starter

marvin williams
upside - tracy mcgrady, richard jefferson
downside - joe smith
role - future superstar

chris paul
upside - tony parker, luke ridnour
downside - jay williams
role - immediate starter

deron williams
upside - andre miller, mark jackson
downside - alvin williams
role - immediate starter

gerald green
upside - tracy mcgrady, joe johnson
downside - kendrick brown
role - althletic wing player, eventual starter at small forward

channing frye
upside - chris bosh
downside - alan henderson
role - starting power forward

andrew bynum
upside - brendan haywood
downside - michael olowokandi
role - backup center

martel webster
upside - glen rice
downside - lamond murray
role - designated shooter

hakim warrick
upside - tayshaun prince
downside - eddie griffin
role - eventual starter at small forward

raymond felton
upside - mike bibby
downside - lindsey hunter
role - starting point guard

antoine wright
upside - allan houston
downside - jeff trepagnier
role - wing player

danny granger
upside - michael finley
downside - matt harpring (not a bad player)
role - starting small forward

charlie villanueva
upside - drew gooden
downside - derrick coleman
role - eventual starting power forward

yaroslav korolev
upside - rashard lewis
downside - austin croshere
role - scoring small forward

[Bishop]

Off the dome from hours ago, son. I wasn't THAT far off.
but you were....son

[Mighty Feez]

Mighty Feez, a friend of mine said the same thing about Tayshaun Prince. he said that the guy wasn't impressive when he played against him during his college days in a pick up game of basketball. he said that Prince was too weak and will get manhandled in the NBA....look at him now.

it all depends on which team he goes to and this is the way I see it for most players. the team you play for will depend how good you are or can be

I think you are correct for the most part.....

of course you can never predict the circumstances an individual might face, or how a certain francise or members of the francise may influence an individuals development.

using your Prince comparison doesn't carry a lot of weight for 2 reason's. For one, we are talking about two completely different individuals with opinions from two other different individuals. 2nd, there are a lot more guys with potential and hype that turn out to be scrubs, then are successful.

my point is that his skills set is not impressive at all. of course that will improve (how much depends on several factors) but their is a ceiling to his potential. whether of not he catches on as a quality role player in the future is hard to predict, I just feel picking him to highly is a tremendous risk....

[my sex is artsy]

Interesting draft note:

My best friend is going on an exchange to Venezuela, and as such, he must host an exchange student. The guy staying at his dad's place, this wild French exchange student named Nelson...he used to play on the French national junior team with first round draft prospect Johan Petro.

[Sir Gibbs]

I've decided to bet everything i have on the favourite. If he doesn;t go first i still have my pride results cash to fall back on

[my sex is artsy]

I'm sick of not betting on anything

24000 going down on Bogut. If I win, that's great. If I don't, I can start a hatred for the Bucks eternally.

[my sex is artsy]

Also, can we vote Bogut to the All Interview team already, as he was tearing people up for talking about his "vision problem" i.e. nearsightedness.

[my sex is artsy]

Also, can Stephen A. Smith and Stuart Scott PLEASE fight to the death soon?

[Bishop]

Also, can Stephen A. Smith and Stuart Scott PLEASE fight to the death soon?
ahman rashaad for a three way dance

the winner gets placed on a podium and shot in the back of the head....got this from george carlin

[H]

that'd be cool if 300/1 odds won it all

[tak]

um...ok, now how do i edit to show who won?

[my sex is artsy]

ahman rashaad for a three way dance

the winner gets placed on a podium and shot in the back of the head....got this from george carlin

Fuck them all. Fuck them.

[Jack Swagger]

I never bought the hype on Bogut down here because the Aussie media likes to jump all over the nuts of ANY Australian (or New Zealander for that matter) who does anything remotely exciting somewhere overseas, however it would seem that the hype is for real on this guy ...

What time does this shit start anyways?

[Bishop]

what a suprise

[Bishop]

shit! atlanta picked williams....they need a PG. he's probably trade bait right now though. but he is the best possible player in this years draft to become a superstar....we'll see

alright, this thread is done....i'm starting up a thread for the NBA Draft

[tak]

alright, it's been payed out.