Riggs to Replace Karo

[BigJ383]

We all know about the news broke here on BK about Karo being officially out of UFC 56. MMA weekly is reporting Joe Riggs will replace Karo Parisyan in the title fight against Hughes.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=972&zoneid=13

[CTY]

That is...I dont know. I guess we'll get to see Riggs take some bows the the face. I just hope there isn't some fluke and Riggs wins...I dont know what i'd do. Edit: I'd also like to add that its good Horn is going to train Hughes as opposed to Riggs.

[fightguy]

:( I was really looking forward to Karo vs Hughes. I don't think that Riggs is going to give Hughes much problem

[my sex is artsy]

No decent training partners + no sub defense + facing best 170'er in the world = peace out, Diesel.

[CTY]

No decent training partners + no sub defense + facing best 170'er in the world = peace out, Diesel.

Hughes by slick ass armbar.

[Oliver Klosov]

*pats self on back for calling this last night*

[DCBooks]

Hughes is one of the only people that Riggs won't outmuscle at that weightclass.

I'd be curious to hear what strategy he brings to the table.

[CTY]

Hughes is one of the only people that Riggs won't outmuscle at that weightclass.

I'd be curious to hear what strategy he brings to the table.

Get hurt before the fight so he doesn't get hurt during the fight?

[DCBooks]

Get hurt before the fight so he doesn't get hurt during the fight?
That was Karo's plan right?

[my sex is artsy]

This fight is probably going to be really quick and nasty. I see Riggs looking to throw early, Hughes ducking under, picking him up, slamming him, and just ground and pounding to a sub. Hughes is about the worst person at 170 for Riggs to fight, since he can't bully him or outwrestle him. Riggs should just go out and go for broke

[my sex is artsy]

That was Kato's plan right?

Tetsuji Kato? vs. Hughes? If that happened in 2001, I would've been pumped.

[CTY]

That was Karo's plan right?

No, I meant that because Riggs always gets hurt training....nevermind. Hughes is gonna put a hurtin on this kid.

[OB Juan]

I was looking forward to seeing Matt stand w/ Karo (at least that's what he said he was gonna do). I think w/ Riggs in there Matt will revert back to his classic strategy of GnPing the snot out of him. Too bad.

LMAO if Riggs gets another cut from the guard and becomes WW champ.

[dy-no-mite3000]

*pats self on back for calling this last night*
if the thread no longer exists, did it ever really happen?

[dy-no-mite3000]

im going out on a ledge.

Riggs is STOPPING Matt Hughes and taking his belt by the end of round 2.

[my sex is artsy]

Riggs is STOPPING Matt Hughes and taking his belt by the end of round 2.

How can Riggs stop Hughes in Round 2 after he gets submitted in Round 1? If this a best 2 out of 3 falls for the WWF Welterweight Championship on SNME?

[CTY]

How can Riggs stop Hughes in Round 2 after he gets submitted in Round 1? If this a best 2 out of 3 falls for the WWF Welterweight Championship on SNME?

Hughes would still win 2 of 3 falls :D

[ashrael]

Interesting. I would have preferred to see Diesel fight a few more times at 170, but this should be interesting.

[my sex is artsy]

Also, is Riggs still going to have the hook up with Billy Rush for this fight? If not, he could be in a lot of trouble trying to get to 170.

[dy-no-mite3000]

Also, is Riggs still going to have the hook up with Billy Rush for this fight? If not, he could be in a lot of trouble trying to get to 170.


Riggs is in Utah with Rush,Franklin,Jergel and co. Prob Travis wuiff etc... All training Franklin and Riggs for their UFC 56 fights.

Riggs had no time to bulk up after going down to 170 for Lytle, Riggs said so himself he's keeping himself @ 180 so he doesnt have to cut as much next time.

All of you count Riggs out, especially the biggest Riggs hater out there... Yes you Jordan McKnight!

Hughes is training @ MFS(iowa) with his bro and co. as always for this fight.

Riggs is a good strong unorthodox puncher. Hughes has never faced guys who strike standing and on the ground as much as Riggs does. Riggs has a good tank @ 185, and even when he cut to much for Lytle he still held up well.

While training like a Rushaholic, we will see a strong Riggs stepping up to take the fight. I jsut wonder if he can handle his emotions and not let them get the best of him as they have before.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

I was looking forward to seeing Matt stand w/ Karo (at least that's what he said he was gonna do). I think w/ Riggs in there Matt will revert back to his classic strategy of GnPing the snot out of him. Too bad.

LMAO if Riggs gets another cut from the guard and becomes WW champ.


If that happened I'd launch my own campaign to ban elbows and reinstate the stomps and knees.

The way Riggs beat Lytle was total bullshit. Even though he probably would have won anyway, it was still total bullshit.

[my sex is artsy]

Riggs is in Utah with Rush,Franklin,Jergel and co. Prob Travis wuiff etc... All training Franklin and Riggs for their UFC 56 fights.


I personally feel better about Hughes training with Horn than Riggs training with those guys. Especially since Horn will instantly be able to diagnose all the little things that suck about Riggs' game to Matt.

All of you count Riggs out, especially the biggest Riggs hater out there... Yes you Jordan McKnight!

Jordan Knight and Brian McKnight together?



Riggs is a good strong unorthodox puncher. Hughes has never faced guys who strike standing and on the ground as much as Riggs does. Riggs has a good tank @ 185, and even when he cut to much for Lytle he still held up well.

The reciprocal to this is that Riggs has never faced a fighter half as good as Hughes, who is half the wrestler Hughes is, who has half the elite level experience Hughes has.

While Riggs is growing as a fighter, and has all the time in the world to be a champion...its not going to happen in this fight. Riggs' game at this juncture just isn't matured enough to handle what Hughes is going to throw at him.

[PickleDick]

Im picking Riggs.. I hope he knocks hughes outski.. Hughes has had the belt for too long anyways.

[Bishop]

I'm going out on a limb as well and picking Riggs to win the title. Hughes is a very cocky fighter, but sticks to his game plan as well. I think he'll stand and trade with Riggs, to test him and will get hammered....Riggs will follow that up with getting in the guard and finishing it off with strikes/elbows

RIGGS, the next WW champ

[CTY]

I think this fight is gonna look like when Hughes' put a beating on all of his team in training after they lost on TUF2. Total annihilation.

[Bishop]

I think this fight is gonna look like when Hughes' put a beating on all of his team in training after they lost on TUF2. Total annihilation.
you mean kneeing them while sparring and endangering their chances in the competition?

[bakedogg]

No decent training partners + no sub defense + facing best 170'er in the world = peace out, Diesel.
which is a bummer, because i wanted to see him waste a few more guy's at 170 before he get's blown out by someone. i was thinking he would wind up fighting St. Peezy for some reason.

[KD=KO]

Riggs is someone that I can see taking the belt from Hughes. He's physically larger, and hits like a mack track. Technically, Hughes has a much sounder game and is a far more savvy fighter, I think that his inability to manhandle Riggs will prove to be his achilles.

[CTY]

you mean kneeing them while sparring and endangering their chances in the competition?

I mean like when he was pummeling the shit out of Luke against the cage.

[fightguy]

Jordan Knight and Brian McKnight together?
Please don't use Giant Robot's real name on this forum

[TILSON]

God Hughes is going to mash Riggs. This will be fun.

[MilkChan]

HAHAHA GOODNIGHT, RIGGS!

i've been waiting for someone to beat his face in.

[Sir Gibbs]

I could see Hughes having problems dominating Riggs as he has the rest of the 170 division, he won't have the size and strength advantage he's used to. He probably won't want to stand with fat joe either, as he apparently has heavy hands standing, although i've never really seen them.

I still see Matt winning, simply based on his experience and ring savvy if nothing else. Also with Riggs cutting to 170 again (lets hope he lays of the tacos), i can't see him having 5 round cardio and can't see him putting Hughes away apart from maybe a Lytle-esq cut.

[bakedogg]

HAHAHA GOODNIGHT, RIGGS!

i've been waiting for someone to beat his face in.
it's the tatto's isnt it?

[bakedogg]

I still see Matt winning, simply based on his experience and ring savvy if nothing else. Also with Riggs cutting to 170 again (lets hope he lays of the tacos), i can't see him having 5 round cardio and can't see him putting Hughes away apart from maybe a Lytle-esq cut.
he did do really well off his back against lytle.

[Dredd]

hahahahaha

[Malibu]

Riggs is Hughes, with less skill and poorer training. He'll only win by a cut or some other fluke.

[bakedogg]

Riggs is Hughes, with less skill and poorer training. He'll only win by a cut or some other fluke.
http://www.impawards.com/1995/posters/fluke_ver2.jpg


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[MilkChan]

it's the tatto's isnt it?

yeah, i'm biased against ugly tattoos.

[bakedogg]

yeah, i'm biased against ugly tattoos.
so's snoop. it makes me laugh to imagine that he's shaking his head in disapproval of rigg's tatto's. SNOOPWN3D!!!!11!!!!1!@%*&!!!!NINER!!7

[Malibu]

http://www.impawards.com/1995/posters/fluke_ver2.jpg


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"Come to www.impawards.com for one of the web's largest galleries of movie posters."

*goes to www.impawards.com for one of the web's largest galleries of movie posters*

I don't get it.

[bakedogg]

no picture eh?

[Malibu]

negative. what was it?

[bakedogg]

http://media.bestprices.com/content/dvd/00/171001.jpg

[Malibu]

adorable, in a puke-in-my-mouth kind of way.

[bakedogg]

adorable, in a puke-in-my-mouth kind of way.
Are you asking me to puke in your....

HEY!! are you flirting with me?

[Malibu]

Are you asking me to puke in your....

HEY!! are you flirting with me?


No. Why? Is it working?

[bakedogg]

*blushes*

[Malibu]

geez, did it just get hotter in here?

[Gabriel]

I'm almost afraid to say it but I like this change. I don't expect Riggs to win by any means, but I do think he'll make for a much more exciting match than Karo did.

[Sir Gibbs]

geez, did it just get hotter in here?

No it's just you Jack ;)

[Canario]

Anyone who doesn't think Hughes will be able to slam Riggs is likely on crazy pills......

If I can pick a HW up enough to slam them, I'm sure Hughes can do the same to Riggs.......

[Sir Gibbs]

I'm almost afraid to say it but I like this change. I don't expect Riggs to win by any means, but I do think he'll make for a much more exciting match than Karo did.

Agreed the previous match would have gone down very much like Sherk & St.Pierre vs Karo matches, with Hughes just being to damn physical for him. Riggs definetely offers something different, potentially more dangerous & exciting

[elbowsmash]

bye bye riggs

riggs himself has even said he was hurting at 170 against lytle, and in the second round felt very weak

170 isn't a weight riggs should be fighting at, unless he gets real used to it

i see a 2nd round TKO by hughes when riggs gasses in the 2nd like he said he was against lytle

look for matt to score a takedown early, he isn't standing with riggs.... thats really only riggs shot to beat matt, which he could definately do standing

combine all that with short notice fight, and him having to cut... = bye bye riggs

unless he goes balls to wall 1st round (cause he knows thats the only round he can win due to stamina/cutting issues)

and scores a ko or tko.....which i'd love to see

[Doctor]

way more interesting than karo in my opinion

[Lobo]

Riggs is gonna get worked, HARD. Karo was gonna get worked, HARD. The change doesn't affect anything.

[cottonzway]

I think a lot of people will be shocked by this fight. Has Hughes ever faced someone that you would consider stronger then him?

[Canario]

I think a lot of people will be shocked by this fight. Has Hughes ever faced someone that you would consider stronger then him?

Everyday in training since he was a child

[bakedogg]

Everyday in training since he was a child
you think Kanahera is stronger than matt?

[Whining Pussy]

not a bad choice at all. it's an interesting match-up. it's just kinda wack that Riggs comes in and beats the 170lb ufc gatekeeper, Lytle, then immediately gets a title shot.

[Gabriel]

Everyday in training since he was a child

Mark?

[Canario]

you think Kanahera is stronger than matt?

He has fought some big guys in his career, but people forget that 200 pounds is nothing when you are training with guys 265+ everyday.

I guarantee Matt could pick Big Tim up and drop him on his head

[bakedogg]

He has fought some big guys in his career, but people forget that 200 pounds is nothing when you are training with guys 265+ everyday.

I guarantee Matt could pick Big Tim up and drop him on his head
[s.dog]dude, Tim would so pwn matt in a fight!!!!!!!![/whitebelt]

[Lobo]

not a bad choice at all. it's an interesting match-up. it's just kinda wack that Riggs comes in and beats the 170lb ufc gatekeeper, Lytle, then immediately gets a title shot.


At least he won his last fight unlike Eilers. I don't think the UFC had too many options: they could not cancel the heavily marketed Diaz/Sanchez fight and I don't think they want to blow the GSP/Hughes fight just yet.

I think it'll be a decent fight; comparable to what Hughes/Parysian fight would've looked like. At least Riggs is far more dangerous standing than Karo. Groundwise, I don't know, I've not seen much of Riggs on the ground except for the beatdown he gave Doerkson (but that's a completely different style to Matt's).

[BigJ383]

not a bad choice at all. it's an interesting match-up. it's just kinda wack that Riggs comes in and beats the 170lb ufc gatekeeper, Lytle, then immediately gets a title shot.
It's not like he was their first choice. I'm sure he's the best they could get on 3 weeks notice to fight Hughes. People could say GSP would be better but when their rematch happens I don't want any excuses. Both fully trained and ready for a fight with eachother. Riggs isn't bad at all in a bind. The only problem is Riggs usually trains with Sylvia and Horn but they are training with Hughes for this fight.

[CHH]

Karo and Hughes aren't fighting!?! WTF...WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!

[Vanilla Gorilla]

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[Nova]

It's going to be funny watching a 'one dimensional fighter' take him down and pound him out. Joe talks tough, and I don't doubt that he's good on his back, but is he good enough for Matt, on short notice no less? I do not think so. If Lytle took him down, Hughes will take him down, and Hughes will make it count.

And him saying that the standing is the only tiring thing... that is such a crock of shit. 5 rounds with Matt Hughes on top of you is going to be a world of gassing, especially when he himself admitted that he felt shitty going into the second round of his only other 170 fight. This shit is steep.

[CHH]

Hughes is one dimensional like Nog is one dimensional

[my sex is artsy]

Hughes is one dimensional like Nog is one dimensional

I'd disagree, since Nog can only FINISH guys one way (unless they're massive outweighed and chinless like Kikuta, or novice and gassed like Nastula). Hughes can sub guys, and bang guys out on the floor.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I'd disagree, since Nog can only FINISH guys one way (unless they're massive outweighed and chinless like Kikuta, or novice and gassed like Nastula). Hughes can sub guys, and bang guys out on the floor.


And powerbomb them into a ko too

Seriously though Hughes has shown such an improvement in his style ever since his fight with BJ.I like how hes got a ground game with subs and bombs too.Id like to see him stand up with Riggs though,thats one thing we never really get to see too often is Hughes on his feet.

[Lobo]

I think Hughes will play it safe and pound out a decisions. Why risk getting ktfo when you don't have to?

[my sex is artsy]

I think Hughes will play it safe and pound out a decisions. Why risk getting ktfo when you don't have to?

You don't think he can sub a gassed out, beat up Riggs sometime inside 25 minutes?

[Lobo]

Possibly. Knowing Hughes though and Riggs' propensity to talk shit about his opponents I think Hughes is gonna opt to punish him the distance.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

You don't think he can sub a gassed out, beat up Riggs sometime inside 25 minutes?


This is his first fight at WW too isnt it??Or his second?I see Riggs gettign subbed though before he gets tko'd by hughes.Maybe yet another RNC win for Hughes?

[my sex is artsy]

This is his first fight at WW too isnt it??Or his second?I see Riggs gettign subbed though before he gets tko'd by hughes.Maybe yet another RNC win for Hughes?

Second fight. And Riggs said he was starting to feel tired and weak through the second round with Lytle...incredible since he spent the entire fight beating Lytle's ass. If THAT tired him out, what is 7 minutes of Hughes beating his ass going to do for his stamina?

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Second fight. And Riggs said he was starting to feel tired and weak through the second round with Lytle...incredible since he spent the entire fight beating Lytle's ass. If THAT tired him out, what is 7 minutes of Hughes beating his ass going to do for his stamina?


Yeah thats right eh?I forgot about that.I see Hughes pounding on Riggs and Riggs giving either his back to avoid the gnp,or putting his arms up and getting bared quick into the 2nd

[Pelon9519]

The only way i see riggs winning is by cut.

[Nova]

Matt Hughes by RNC in round 2 or 3. Awhile ago, I may have been joking, but this seems well within the realm of possibility nowadays.

[Ratt]

wow that fight just turned from interesting...............to a beat down.

[eMpEr0r]

Hughes, Sub, Round 1.

I see some of you are picking Riggs; please pass whatever you are smokin' over my way.

[OB Juan]

I'd give Riggs a puncher's chance and not much else. He could definitely land a bomb and drop Matt or get a cut. If it goes past rd 1 Riggs' chances go from slim to none.

[cottonzway]

He has fought some big guys in his career, but people forget that 200 pounds is nothing when you are training with guys 265+ everyday.

I guarantee Matt could pick Big Tim up and drop him on his head

Speaking of that I recall Tin saying that Riggs was the only guy he was trained with that he couldn't keep down. That would include Matt Hughes.
Not to say that he couldn't slam him because Matt obviously could, but Hughes might not be able to keep Riggs down.

[OB Juan]

it's just kinda wack that Riggs comes in and beats the 170lb ufc gatekeeper, Lytle, then immediately gets a title shot.

Do you ever have anything positive to say about anything? It's a last minute replacement. I'm just glad they found somebody that would fight Hughes on such short notice. Considering the choices were pretty much Riggs or Serra I think they did alright.

[Zigga-Zagga]

Whoa, this new stuff looks... interesting. Anyhoes:

That's the way I wanted it to go.

Sure, 90% say that Riggs is going to get pounded, but St. Peezy would have been pointless since a good Shrek/Peezy would have been a gonner, no build-up for the mainstream public and since it's the ending TUF and Hughes needs to look tough.

Not as much a test to Hughes this is a test to see how well Riggs can hang at the best of 170 untill getting defeated, he could really make a name for himself even in defeat.

[uberfighter]

i'm actually looking forward to this one more than i am the original fight. i think karo was just going to be outmuscled. i think riggs could potentially pose some problems for hughes if he works on his defense.

[heckyl]

meh. Riggs cant win this fight unless he lands the punch. he can land it but its doubtful. its too bad cause i like Riggs. but hes just not ready for this. not even close.

[tak]

every one of riggs' gay ass tattoos is done in a different font, how weak is that?! i hope hughes murders him.

[CHH]

every one of riggs' gay ass tattoos is done in a different font, how weak is that?! i hope hughes murders him.don't worry, he will. on subfighter there's like 3-5 people who are guaranting a Riggs win. I'm gonna gay sig bet them so hard

[PickleDick]

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"Hughes is a one deminsional fighter"


He is, hes a wrestler who knows some subs.. Ive never seen that good of striking come from the guy... Def not on Riggs level.. I hope Riggs gets a one punch KO. Hughes is a lindland (not as good as wrestler) but he does slams.
And if Riggs can get Slyvia off of full mount, he won't have a problem getting hughes off of him.. im going for riggs.. i want a riggs avatar.
And i hope BJ Penn gets brought back for a rematch, but that will never happen either.

[my sex is artsy]

He is, hes a wrestler who knows some subs.. Ive never seen that good of striking come from the guy...

Is striking on the ground somehow not valid? And, if you're referring to Hughes' stand up...why would he bother? He outclasses his opponents on the ground, so that's where he takes them.

But, nonetheless, his switch step flying punch on Mach pwnt.

Def not on Riggs level.. I hope Riggs gets a one punch KO.

"Riggs level"? Are you shitting me? Do you realize Riggs has been KO'd by just about every good striker he's faced, save for Lytle who looked like Riggs' little sister next to him? Yeah, his striking sure looked incredible when Rodney Faverus fucked the back of his face with his knee cap. Or when Cabbage banged him out.