Prometheus *Spoiler* discussion - Page 2

Gabriel · 06-13-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NutzOnUrFace

The Charlize Theron death scene was so bad. They needed to walk about 4 steps to either side of that rolling ship to avoid it. Come on.

CHH · 06-13-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NutzOnUrFace

So lazy.

Fair assessment, but real life is also lazy.

Like for example, the scene about the girl being unable to have a baby, obviously a HUGE part of the story line. It was one of the most important concepts in the movie, but how was it revealed to us?

"well......I can't have a baby" *cue crying*

Because in real life, that's exactly what would happen. Life doesn't start and stop because cameras start rolling, and in real life people don't react how you THINK they should react just to explain something you should already know.

Sometimes they've already got it figured out, or just flat out couldn't give a shit less. Yeah no one gave a shit that the girl was covered in blood...who fucking cares, they're about to go meet GOD HIM-FUCKING-SELF! Who gives a shit about your self-inflicted C-section.

That being said, the death scene was awful. Not just from a "turn left" stand-point.......but fuck....it's a massive, hulking, 2000 fucking year old piece of metal that just had another intergalactic space ship rammed into it full fucking speed. Why didn't it break apart? Jesus. I wanted to see at least one epic nuclear fucking explosion. You're telling me that they couldn't have orchestraed the same exact scene just with billions of pieces of space ship flying through the air, one of which hits Charlize Theron? Argh.....

DCBooks · 06-14-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CHH

You're telling me that they couldn't have orchestraed the same exact scene just with billions of pieces of space ship flying through the air, one of which hits Charlize Theron? Argh.....

I think that's how I choose to remember that scene from now on. Much improved.

Still they needed some of the ship intact so the engineer could chase after Shaw and not just go launch the other ship. Because if he showed half a brain he never would have gotten impregnated for the Alien tie-in.

NutzOnUrFace · 06-14-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CHH

Fair assessment, but real life is also lazy.

Like for example, the scene about the girl being unable to have a baby, obviously a HUGE part of the story line. It was one of the most important concepts in the movie, but how was it revealed to us?

"well......I can't have a baby" *cue crying*

Because in real life, that's exactly what would happen. Life doesn't start and stop because cameras start rolling, and in real life people don't react how you THINK they should react just to explain something you should already know.

Sometimes they've already got it figured out, or just flat out couldn't give a shit less. Yeah no one gave a shit that the girl was covered in blood...who fucking cares, they're about to go meet GOD HIM-FUCKING-SELF! Who gives a shit about your self-inflicted C-section.

OK fair enough. They don't care. But don't you think she would have been like...UMMMM, there's a giant fucking alien that came out of me in the ship. This might not be good. How did it get there?!

I really have trouble with everyone ignoring all that.

PS: Got got pwned by a giant worm. What does that say about him?

kcb · 06-14-2012, 06:25 PM

I can finally read this thread now.

I went away with more questions than answers. I'm a Lost fan so I don't mind that much, but it's annoying when it's a movie because I'll have to wait probably a year for answers and that's assuming it sums everything up for me. Who knows. Maybe there will be a 3rd movie and even more questions.

I appreciated the allegory and metaphor. A lot of it I got during the movie but some of it I missed.

Overall, it was just okay for me.

kcb · 06-14-2012, 06:40 PM

Oh, yeah. The snake thingies, when they open their mouths, look like vaginas.

Sid-art · 06-17-2012, 10:52 AM

Saw this yesterday for the second time. It was awesome. Some underlying themes i could identify

Self sacrifice vs selfishness

creation as a consequence of destruction

creationism vs evolution

Space jesus

Sid-art · 10-10-2012, 02:17 PM

Now that the blu-ray and all the deleted scenes are out, what do you guys think?

DCBooks · 10-10-2012, 02:20 PM

Hasn't shipped from Amazon yet!!! Damn them and their free shipping ruse! Soon.

Don · 10-17-2012, 03:49 PM

I heard the delete and alternate scenes are shite. It was a good movie. May need to watch it again...

Gabriel · 10-17-2012, 04:17 PM

Finally watched this. Movie felt like it was all over the place. Lots of wasted potential.

Lappari · 10-17-2012, 07:11 PM

Watched it again. I missed a few things before... when they land on the planet, someone is a holding a weapon and Shaw says "This is a scientific expedition. No weapons.". You just landed on a planet that clearly has something that someone quite intelligent had to built, yet you don't want to be able to defend yourself? I'm quite drunk but this doesn't make a lot of sense.

Lappari · 10-17-2012, 07:18 PM

...and why is that ginger "I'm just here to get paid" fuckhead on board? Who would hire him? He's got all these gadgets yet he's the first dumbass who goes missing. Just wait until it's Friday and I'm really drunk.

DCBooks · 10-22-2012, 04:23 PM

Watched the deleted scenes last night and have a couple of thoughts.

When news leaked out that Ridley Scott was making a prequel to Alien it seems like they over-reacted trying to make the film less like Alien in the hopes of a big reveal pay-off at the end. This was pretty stupid as a lot of cool proto-alien stuff was cut for no reason other than to distance themselves from a great original flick.

* finding the shedded skin
* the original design for the infected geologist

The chat between David, Weyland and the Engineer makes a lot more sense. People were speculating that David might have said something to set the engineer off and kill Weyland, but he also got himself beheaded. Weyland's hubris invoking the engineer's response makes much more sense here.

The extended fight scene between Shaw and the Engineer shows some interesting personality for the engineer, but the continued beating Shaw takes is already implausible, so cutting it makes sense.

The tree angry version scenes (Vickers Weyland, Shaw Halloway, and Shaw David) are good cuts. Each character comes off less likable when portrayed as angry.

Still about 8 hours of stuff I haven't watched on the disc.

I think the only disappointment I have is that these "professionals" stupid moves are not excused or explained in the expansion. How the richest man in the world puts together a geologist/mapper who gets lost, a biologist who can't spot a cobra, and a daughter who can't make turns is beyond me. How does a deeps space trucking crew fare better in Alien than these guys is still a mystery.

DCBooks · 12-12-2012, 06:17 PM

06-14-2012, 06:25 PM	#35
kcb Most highly tenured Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,937 vCash: 1925 Rep Power: 26	I can finally read this thread now. I went away with more questions than answers. I'm a Lost fan so I don't mind that much, but it's annoying when it's a movie because I'll have to wait probably a year for answers and that's assuming it sums everything up for me. Who knows. Maybe there will be a 3rd movie and even more questions. I appreciated the allegory and metaphor. A lot of it I got during the movie but some of it I missed. Overall, it was just okay for me. __________________ http://www.kcbrawley.net Most politically correct thread in BK history: http://www.bloodyknux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904 "You just keep pushing. You just keep pushing. I made every mistake that could be made, but I just kept pushing." - Rene Descartes

06-14-2012, 06:40 PM	#36
kcb Most highly tenured Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,937 vCash: 1925 Rep Power: 26	Oh, yeah. The snake thingies, when they open their mouths, look like vaginas. __________________ http://www.kcbrawley.net Most politically correct thread in BK history: http://www.bloodyknux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904 "You just keep pushing. You just keep pushing. I made every mistake that could be made, but I just kept pushing." - Rene Descartes

06-17-2012, 10:52 AM	#37
Sid-art Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 746 vCash: 16394 Rep Power: 16	Saw this yesterday for the second time. It was awesome. Some underlying themes i could identify Self sacrifice vs selfishness creation as a consequence of destruction creationism vs evolution Space jesus __________________ ‎"The way I saw it, everybody takes a beating sometime." - Henry Hill Last edited by Sid-art : 10-10-2012 at 02:16 PM.

10-10-2012, 02:17 PM	#38
Sid-art Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 746 vCash: 16394 Rep Power: 16	Now that the blu-ray and all the deleted scenes are out, what do you guys think? __________________ ‎"The way I saw it, everybody takes a beating sometime." - Henry Hill

10-10-2012, 02:20 PM	#39
DCBooks Banned User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manassas Park, VA Posts: 26,469 vCash: 100010752 Rep Power: 50	Hasn't shipped from Amazon yet!!! Damn them and their free shipping ruse! Soon. __________________ If you could fight anyone who would you fight? Anyone? I'd fight Shatner. William Shatner.

10-17-2012, 04:17 PM	#41
Gabriel monstering Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 5,731 vCash: 485 Rep Power: 21	Finally watched this. Movie felt like it was all over the place. Lots of wasted potential. __________________ "All their fight cards have at least one match between a giant fat guy and something that looks like it should be making Christmas toys" - Cracked.com on Japan

10-17-2012, 07:11 PM	#42
Lappari Killer Bunny FTW Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a bottle of Finlandia Vodka. Posts: 5,626 vCash: 2863 Rep Power: 20	Watched it again. I missed a few things before... when they land on the planet, someone is a holding a weapon and Shaw says "This is a scientific expedition. No weapons.". You just landed on a planet that clearly has something that someone quite intelligent had to built, yet you don't want to be able to defend yourself? I'm quite drunk but this doesn't make a lot of sense. __________________ "You don’t fall on the ground and breathe heavy after a [CrossFit] workout?" “No. When animals surrender they go lying on their back. I never go lying on my back. It’s a sign of weakness and surrendering. Never lying on my back." - Mikko Salo

10-17-2012, 07:18 PM	#43
Lappari Killer Bunny FTW Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a bottle of Finlandia Vodka. Posts: 5,626 vCash: 2863 Rep Power: 20	...and why is that ginger "I'm just here to get paid" fuckhead on board? Who would hire him? He's got all these gadgets yet he's the first dumbass who goes missing. Just wait until it's Friday and I'm really drunk. __________________ "You don’t fall on the ground and breathe heavy after a [CrossFit] workout?" “No. When animals surrender they go lying on their back. I never go lying on my back. It’s a sign of weakness and surrendering. Never lying on my back." - Mikko Salo

10-22-2012, 04:23 PM	#44
DCBooks Banned User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manassas Park, VA Posts: 26,469 vCash: 100010752 Rep Power: 50	Watched the deleted scenes last night and have a couple of thoughts. When news leaked out that Ridley Scott was making a prequel to Alien it seems like they over-reacted trying to make the film less like Alien in the hopes of a big reveal pay-off at the end. This was pretty stupid as a lot of cool proto-alien stuff was cut for no reason other than to distance themselves from a great original flick. * finding the shedded skin * the original design for the infected geologist The chat between David, Weyland and the Engineer makes a lot more sense. People were speculating that David might have said something to set the engineer off and kill Weyland, but he also got himself beheaded. Weyland's hubris invoking the engineer's response makes much more sense here. The extended fight scene between Shaw and the Engineer shows some interesting personality for the engineer, but the continued beating Shaw takes is already implausible, so cutting it makes sense. The tree angry version scenes (Vickers Weyland, Shaw Halloway, and Shaw David) are good cuts. Each character comes off less likable when portrayed as angry. Still about 8 hours of stuff I haven't watched on the disc. I think the only disappointment I have is that these "professionals" stupid moves are not excused or explained in the expansion. How the richest man in the world puts together a geologist/mapper who gets lost, a biologist who can't spot a cobra, and a daughter who can't make turns is beyond me. How does a deeps space trucking crew fare better in Alien than these guys is still a mystery. __________________ If you could fight anyone who would you fight? Anyone? I'd fight Shatner. William Shatner.

12-12-2012, 06:17 PM	#45
DCBooks Banned User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manassas Park, VA Posts: 26,469 vCash: 100010752 Rep Power: 50	__________________ If you could fight anyone who would you fight? Anyone? I'd fight Shatner. William Shatner.

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