Concussions :(

Dizoja86 · 12-24-2005, 12:13 AM

I've been doing aikido and kenpo karate for a few years now, and it was never a problem before (although I never really got into sparring) but since I've started sparring, everytime I go I get a light concussion. I mean feeling pretty stunned after the hit, even when it's really not that hard, getting a headache later, feeling tired, depressed, and generally sick for a day or so afterwards. I could deal with a bloody nose everytime I spar, but I don't want to mess around with this.
I know it probobly means my sparring days are over, but I thought I might as well make the post in case anybody has some input.

Dredd · 12-24-2005, 12:28 AM

concussions are healthy.

Seriously, I honestly don't know what to say. Probably want to talk to a doctor.

Kohai · 12-24-2005, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizoja86

I've been doing aikido and kenpo karate for a few years now, and it was never a problem before (although I never really got into sparring) but since I've started sparring, everytime I go I get a light concussion. I mean feeling pretty stunned after the hit, even when it's really not that hard, getting a headache later, feeling tired, depressed, and generally sick for a day or so afterwards. I could deal with a bloody nose everytime I spar, but I don't want to mess around with this.
I know it probobly means my sparring days are over, but I thought I might as well make the post in case anybody has some input.

Shit happens, it was a problem for me for a while, so I stopped striking altogether. When I tried again after about four months, everything went perfectly, haven't had one since. I have no explanation, but give your brain some time to heal and then see what happens.

Dizoja86 · 12-24-2005, 12:51 AM

yeah, I've talked to my family doctor. She recommended against sparring, but yeah, I imagine I'll keep trying every few months and hope something changes. Or maybe I'll drink a crapload of alcohol and hope I kill enough brain cells for my brain to shrink so there's more fluid between my brain and skull

Dredd · 12-24-2005, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizoja86

yeah, I've talked to my family doctor. She recommended against sparring, but yeah, I imagine I'll keep trying every few months and hope something changes. Or maybe I'll drink a crapload of alcohol and hope I kill enough brain cells for my brain to shrink so there's more fluid between my brain and skull

Does that actually happen?

*opens beer*

CHH · 12-24-2005, 06:28 AM

Every time your concussed, you're more susceptible to future concussions. Do you really know what a concussion is, or are you just getting headaches?

Nova · 12-25-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CHH

Do you really know what a concussion is, or are you just getting headaches?

That's the million dollar question there. I've been beaten quite a few times to the point of feeling totally concussed, without having an actual concussion. Yes, you might be dazed as fuck... what else do you think getting punched in the face is going to do, but if you haven't been diagnosed as having an actual concussion... well then.

Falero · 12-25-2005, 11:32 PM

If you really are getting concussions, you should stop doing what causes them. But I´m not sure if you´re getting real concussions here. Light sparring shouldn´t give you it. Do you have a pencil neck or similar?

DaPunisher · 12-26-2005, 12:21 AM

your not getting light concussions.

Your getting hit in the face. You dont like it, your making it to be worse than it is. Toughen the fuck up. After awhile you'll get used to it(sort of)

Marshal G.K. Zhukov · 12-26-2005, 04:19 AM

Buy a Shock Doctor mouthpiece and headgear asap if you are going to spar. I'm pretty sure you have some boil and bite bullshit that only protects your teeth. Spend some grip on this, its not something you want skimp on.

You are probably in the same boat as me, I was concussed a year and a half ago and I can't spar without getting headaches and feeling disconnected even with a brain bucket and a nice mouthpiece. I don't want to end up with anything permanent so I pretty much quit karate/boxing, school and work demands helped that decision along too.

Dizoja86 · 12-27-2005, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaPunisher

your not getting light concussions.

Your getting hit in the face. You dont like it, your making it to be worse than it is. Toughen the fuck up. After awhile you'll get used to it(sort of)

Okay tough guy

My family doctor has diagnosed them as concussions everytime I've gotten them.

DaPunisher · 12-27-2005, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizoja86

Okay tough guy

My family doctor has diagnosed them as concussions everytime I've gotten them.

I still think your full of shit, but serious if your right then and they are concussions, how many times have you been diagnosed by your doctor as having them????

Seriously, over the last 6 months how many have you had?????

CHH · 12-27-2005, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizoja86

Okay tough guy

My family doctor has diagnosed them as concussions everytime I've gotten them.

Rightfully, family doctors don't know everything. They are extremely under-educated in the demands of combat athletes. They think that every person with a headache has a concussion, and everyone with a sore shoulder has a torn rotator cuff.

If you really get concussions through light sparring, get a CT scan. You have a serious head trauma that needs to be diagnosed.

Rauger · 12-27-2005, 04:24 AM

just because you get stunned a bit and get knocked doesnt necessarily mean its a concussion. You should probably check with your doctor. Secondly, cover your face. Youll never get a concussion if you dont get bashed

Merlin · 12-27-2005, 01:05 PM

Family doctors don't know everything; but apparently DaPunisher does.

J. Walter Weatherman · 12-27-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CHH

Rightfully, family doctors don't know everything. They are extremely under-educated in the demands of combat athletes. They think that every person with a headache has a concussion, and everyone with a sore shoulder has a torn rotator cuff.

If you really get concussions through light sparring, get a CT scan. You have a serious head trauma that needs to be diagnosed.

This is true. Quite often, the methods doctors use to diagnose people are inaccurate and can be bypassed with common sense. That's one thing they can't teach in medical school - common sense.

Comcussions generally induce nausea. If you're not throwing up, I would doubt it's a concussion.

CHH · 12-28-2005, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BozSkaggs

This is true. Quite often, the methods doctors use to diagnose people are inaccurate and can be bypassed with common sense. That's one thing they can't teach in medical school - common sense.

Comcussions generally induce nausea. If you're not throwing up, I would doubt it's a concussion.

Well, I've had a concussion without throwing up, but I certainly wanted to. Another tell tale sign is if you get KTFO'd or you have a long lapse in memory. When I had my concussion there was about 8 or 9 minutes of time where I was awake and I have absolutely no recollection of.

Dizoja86 · 12-28-2005, 08:56 AM

Alright, here's how I felt after the last one. Symptoms either related to or not.

After impact I was stunned of course, didn't think too much of it, felt somewhat out of it for 10 minutes or so. For the rest of the night I had a headache, was tired and depressed for no apparant reason, my thinking was blurry as hell, and I felt fine the next day. The one before that, I felt sick as hell and had a murderous headache for almost a week, but I wasn't tired and my thinking was fine. My doctor called them light concussions after I described the symptoms to her. The head instructor at my karate dojo didn't comment to much, he just told me it wasn't worth the risk. My instructor I usually go to class with brought up that it could be caused by neck pain.

I'm inclined to go with my doctors opinion for the moment, although perhaps I'll ask another doctor once I get the chance, or a sports doctor who would be better versed in these types of injuries.

Dizoja86 · 12-28-2005, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaPunisher

I still think your full of shit, but serious if your right then and they are concussions, how many times have you been diagnosed by your doctor as having them????

Seriously, over the last 6 months how many have you had?????

How mature. I'm sure you're quite warrented in your statement though, I mean why wouldn't I lie about getting a concussion on a message board?

And apparantly I've had 3 in the past 6 months, two from sparring, one from work.

CHH · 12-28-2005, 09:08 AM

Dude, definetely get a cat scan. Also I suggest finding new sparring partners who don't give you concussions.

When I spar with my buddies, we typically don't wear headgear, have our mouthpieces dangling out of our mouths, and still the worst injury we get is a bit of leather on and eyeball or some bruises from low kicks (except when I broke my buddies foot with a checked low kick).

Just take it easy out there. Sparring is no fun at 97%

J. Walter Weatherman · 12-28-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CHH

Well, I've had a concussion without throwing up, but I certainly wanted to. Another tell tale sign is if you get KTFO'd or you have a long lapse in memory. When I had my concussion there was about 8 or 9 minutes of time where I was awake and I have absolutely no recollection of.

This sounds like a typical weekend with a bottle of Jack for me.

12-24-2005, 12:13 AM	#1
Dizoja86 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 vCash: 55 Rep Power: 0	Concussions :( I've been doing aikido and kenpo karate for a few years now, and it was never a problem before (although I never really got into sparring) but since I've started sparring, everytime I go I get a light concussion. I mean feeling pretty stunned after the hit, even when it's really not that hard, getting a headache later, feeling tired, depressed, and generally sick for a day or so afterwards. I could deal with a bloody nose everytime I spar, but I don't want to mess around with this. I know it probobly means my sparring days are over, but I thought I might as well make the post in case anybody has some input.

12-26-2005, 04:19 AM	#10
Marshal G.K. Zhukov The Emperor protects Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 2,979 vCash: 890 Rep Power: 17	Buy a Shock Doctor mouthpiece and headgear asap if you are going to spar. I'm pretty sure you have some boil and bite bullshit that only protects your teeth. Spend some grip on this, its not something you want skimp on. You are probably in the same boat as me, I was concussed a year and a half ago and I can't spar without getting headaches and feeling disconnected even with a brain bucket and a nice mouthpiece. I don't want to end up with anything permanent so I pretty much quit karate/boxing, school and work demands helped that decision along too. __________________ I have resolved to kill myself. In lieu of flowers, please beat yourselves in the face with rusty chains. Your friend, Bender.

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12-24-2005, 12:28 AM	#2
Dredd Enema Bag Jones Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vic, BC Posts: 4,912 vCash: 835 Rep Power: 18	concussions are healthy. Seriously, I honestly don't know what to say. Probably want to talk to a doctor.

12-24-2005, 12:51 AM	#4
Dizoja86 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 vCash: 55 Rep Power: 0	yeah, I've talked to my family doctor. She recommended against sparring, but yeah, I imagine I'll keep trying every few months and hope something changes. Or maybe I'll drink a crapload of alcohol and hope I kill enough brain cells for my brain to shrink so there's more fluid between my brain and skull

12-24-2005, 06:28 AM	#6
CHH 30-26 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10,422 vCash: 3355 Rep Power: 23	Every time your concussed, you're more susceptible to future concussions. Do you really know what a concussion is, or are you just getting headaches?

12-25-2005, 11:32 PM	#8
Falero More than dangerous Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brazil Posts: 12,756 vCash: 1151 Rep Power: 22	If you really are getting concussions, you should stop doing what causes them. But I´m not sure if you´re getting real concussions here. Light sparring shouldn´t give you it. Do you have a pencil neck or similar?

12-26-2005, 12:21 AM	#9
DaPunisher Banned Join Date: May 2005 Location: Detroit City Posts: 5,522 vCash: 34485 Rep Power: 0	your not getting light concussions. Your getting hit in the face. You dont like it, your making it to be worse than it is. Toughen the fuck up. After awhile you'll get used to it(sort of)

12-27-2005, 04:24 AM	#14
Rauger what would bukowski do? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 4,519 vCash: 533007 Rep Power: 18	just because you get stunned a bit and get knocked doesnt necessarily mean its a concussion. You should probably check with your doctor. Secondly, cover your face. Youll never get a concussion if you dont get bashed

12-28-2005, 08:56 AM	#18
Dizoja86 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 vCash: 55 Rep Power: 0	Alright, here's how I felt after the last one. Symptoms either related to or not. After impact I was stunned of course, didn't think too much of it, felt somewhat out of it for 10 minutes or so. For the rest of the night I had a headache, was tired and depressed for no apparant reason, my thinking was blurry as hell, and I felt fine the next day. The one before that, I felt sick as hell and had a murderous headache for almost a week, but I wasn't tired and my thinking was fine. My doctor called them light concussions after I described the symptoms to her. The head instructor at my karate dojo didn't comment to much, he just told me it wasn't worth the risk. My instructor I usually go to class with brought up that it could be caused by neck pain. I'm inclined to go with my doctors opinion for the moment, although perhaps I'll ask another doctor once I get the chance, or a sports doctor who would be better versed in these types of injuries.

12-28-2005, 09:08 AM	#20
CHH 30-26 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10,422 vCash: 3355 Rep Power: 23	Dude, definetely get a cat scan. Also I suggest finding new sparring partners who don't give you concussions. When I spar with my buddies, we typically don't wear headgear, have our mouthpieces dangling out of our mouths, and still the worst injury we get is a bit of leather on and eyeball or some bruises from low kicks (except when I broke my buddies foot with a checked low kick). Just take it easy out there. Sparring is no fun at 97%