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Old 11-21-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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General non-Zuffa Chit-Chat

This is a thread for non-UFC chitchat that isn't quite important enough for it's own thread.

When is Big Perm coming back?

Is anyone excited for Imanari's big return to ZST this weekend? Tag team grappling action with him and Tokoro taking on Yano and Daisuke Yokoyama. Too bad they couldn't fit Shigeyuki Umeki in there. Katsuhiko Nagata is fighting Naoyuki Kotani on the card.

In local MMA kind of stuff, MFC (you can watch it on HDNet) just inked John Alessio vs. Paul Daley for their December 5 card. Should be a good one and I wish I was less stingy and allowed myself to buy some tickets. And Roger Hollett finally returns to defend his title against Emmanuel Newton. Ryan Ford/Pat Healy II was on the card but Ford hurt himself and they pushed the fight back.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:36 PM   #2
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Doesnt Aleks have a fight in M1 this weekend?

I am fucking hyped for K1 Dynamite, just to see the lightweights.

Shooto has been fucking awesome this year.
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Doesnt Aleks have a fight in M1 this weekend?
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Where'd you see the MFC card? Looks nice, hopefully I get to check that one out.

Never saw the ZST update, but that does sound entertaining at least

Wasn't Big Perm found to be on some Big Meth and suspended for a while after a disappointing performance at the wondorous K-1 USA show? I wouldn't hold my breath for his return.
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And they signed Antonio McKee as a lightweight... that blows because a guy that trains out of my former gym is racking up wins as a lightweight there.

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Where'd you see the MFC card? Looks nice, hopefully I get to check that one out.

Never saw the ZST update, but that does sound entertaining at least

Wasn't Big Perm found to be on some Big Meth and suspended for a while after a disappointing performance at the wondorous K-1 USA show? I wouldn't hold my breath for his return.
mfc? i cant provide. M-1? i can.

This is the M-1 card, from that M-1 guy at kakutougi, if anybody cares:


Line up

Boxing fight
Habib Allahverdiev Russia VS Tanzania Maliki Kinyogoli 63,0

rating fights
Nazarov Alexei Russia VS Russia Sukhomlinov Kirill 77,0

Rating fights
Igor Gerus Russia VS Russia Volkov Alexandr 83,0

main fights

Legion vs Team Holland

Musa Khamanaev Russia VS Holland Bogdan Cristea 70,0
Shikshabekov Magomed Russia VS Holland Romano Delos 77,0
Ansar Chalangov Russia VS Holland Jason Jones 84,0
Besike Gerinava Russia VS Holland Kamil Yugun 93,0
Ahmed Sultanov Russia VS Holland Jessie Gibbs + 93,0

Boxing fight
Magomed Abdusalamov Russia VS Tanzania Bernard Mwakasanga + 93,0

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Alexander Timanov Russia VS Holland Gilbert Yvel + 93,0

Red Devil vs Team Korea

Mikhail Malutin Russia VS Korea Nam Yuichul 70,0
Erik Oganov Russia VS Korea Kim Dohyung 76,0
Dmitry Samoilov Russia VS Korea Heo Minseok 84,0
Mikhail Zayats Russia VS Korea Whi Seung Bae 93,0
Kirill Sidel`nikov Russia VS Korea Kim Jongwhang + 93,0

Superfight
Alexander Emelyanenko Russia VS Korea Lee Sangsoo + 93,0
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Where'd you see the MFC card? Looks nice, hopefully I get to check that one out.

Never saw the ZST update, but that does sound entertaining at least

Wasn't Big Perm found to be on some Big Meth and suspended for a while after a disappointing performance at the wondorous K-1 USA show? I wouldn't hold my breath for his return.
MFC is dope. They're broadcast on HDNet. Their owner is a d-bag (check out some of his posts on the Canadian subforum @ the UG to get an idea), but the dude gets things done and brings in great fighters all the time (although Gary Goodridge flaked out which made me sad and (oYo) will be sad to learn that Scott Junk and the HW division have been phased out). Plus, it's great to have the best Canadian promotion operating out of the city you live in (or live close to). I just wish tickets weren't so expensive so I could actually go once in a while. After service charges, the cheapest tickets are $60+ which is ridiculous for a local promo IMO.



Anyways, here is their card for the next which happens on December 5th.

Roger Hollett vs. Emanuel Newton
John Alessio vs. Paul Daley
Derrick Noble vs. Ariel Sexton
Kyle Sanford vs. Joey Gorczynski
Mike Bruno vs. Kyle Dietz
Mike Sorensen vs. Ryan Machan
Aron Lofton vs. Jason Kuchera
Colby Snyder vs. Josh Russell
Alain Hernandez vs. Gavin Neil
Ryan McGillivray vs. Elliot Duff
Nolan Clark vs. Jesse Clarke

And as an added bonus, Pavelich (the owner) has been teasing that Big John McCarthy might be reffing at this event. BJM was licensed as a ref by the River Cree Casino (where this takes place) recently, so it probably is going to happen.

I would love to see the winner of Alessio/Daley fight the winner of Healy/Ford. And like Nova said, they signed Antonio Mckee as a LW and he said in an interview that he promises to be exciting now instead of extremely boring. LOL.
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Ok other orgs...where do they stand?

Bodog?
HDNet fights ?
EliteXC - bankrupt. assets being sold
IFL - dissolved
Pride - sold
Dreams - Pride
KOTC - survived the Pro Elite mess?
ROTR ?
Adrenaline?
YAMMA - dead?
Art of War ?
Cage Rage have a show in December
Cage Warriors - still going?
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bodog is gone. hdnet fights wasnt really a promotion were they? i know they had like 2 shows or something, spread very far apart... Cage Warriors is still good from what i understand.
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Yamma was going to go ahead with its second successful showing, when their headliner and newly discovered prospect Travis Wiuff was unexpectedly TKO'd by rising pit fighter Muhammed Lawal.

The going ahead with a second showing part was a lie...
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Ok other orgs...where do they stand?

Bodog?
HDNet fights ?
EliteXC - bankrupt. assets being sold
IFL - dissolved
Pride - sold
Dreams - Pride
KOTC - survived the Pro Elite mess?
ROTR ?
Adrenaline?
YAMMA - dead?
Art of War ?
Cage Rage have a show in December
Cage Warriors - still going?
bodog - shut down, staff fired, Ayers returns to palace
HDNet fights - decided to broadcast other promotion's events on HDNet rather than hold their own events
KOTC - no real confirmation of what's going on
ROTR - avoided Pro Elite mess, but the new regulation and ridiculous taxes on MMA in Hawaii are going to hurt them badly
Adrenaline - back on Dec.11. Headlined by Pat Miletich vs. Thomas Denny. Rothwell and lots of other MFS and Monte Cox guys on the show.
Art of War - got screwed over by HDNet, but I believe they're still around in some capacity and are coming baack in 2009 at some point.
Cage Rage - rebranded as Ultimate Challenge UK
Cage Warriors - I know their US offshoot is going to hold 5 shows this year in Orlando, but you'd have to ask kainer2 about the Brit version.
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Sidelnikov is simply far too small to me fighting at HW. Like Vera, he's tall but lean, and his frame and body composition seem to be better suited to MW. He's gonna get grapplefucked by larger guys on the regular as his competition is stepped up.
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ZST the 23rd. Tokoro/Imanari tag team and it's for a strap.
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This time next year Imanari's gonna have more belts than Manny Reyes Jr.
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ZST the 23rd. Tokoro/Imanari tag team and it's for a strap.
lol, is there a printing of rules for the tag team stuff? I've seen it before, but it's been awhile and had me wondering if it was a random switch to pro-wrestling that I didn't notice The concept of an Imanari/Tokoro tag team battle is too epic to pass up though.
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Another org thing is that it looks like TKO here in Canada might be going under. President/owner resigned and their last event got cancelled. Don't know much other than that.

Also, Sengoku and DREAM are going to have duelling FW GPs next year. Sengoku's will be at 65kg/143 lbs and DREAM's will be at 63kg/139 lbs.
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Also, Sengoku and DREAM are going to have duelling FW GPs next year. Sengoku's will be at 65kg/143 lbs and DREAM's will be at 63kg/139 lbs.

Do you have any idea when those will be ?
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The Imanari/Tokoro tag team is victorious.......results..

Main-Event - GT-F (grappling) Tag-Team Final:
Makazu Imanari/Hideo Tokoro Def. Takumi Yano/Daisuke Yokoyama by Decision 2-1

Osami Shibuya Def. Yojiro Uchimura by arm triangle choke Round 1 1:38
Naoyuki Kotani Def. Katsuhiko Nagata by Heel-Hook Round 2 4:38
Tag-team: Kenichi Ito/Yuki Ito vs. Masayuki Okude/Shinya Sato DRAW
Minoru Toyonaga vs. Hiroki Kotani DRAW
Keisuke Fujiwara Def. Shunichi Shimizu by KO Round 2 0:56
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4. -84 kg Rafael Rodrigues vs Jordan Radev
5. -93 kg Enoc Solves Torres vs Valdas Pocevicius
6. +93 kg Rogent Lloret vs Michael Kita

Superfights:

MMA 3x5 min -93 kg
Victor Valimaki, Canada vs
Rodney Faverus-Glunder, Holland

MMA 3x5 min -60 kg
Mathias Klockars, Vaasan Kamppailukeskus vs
Jordy Peute, Pardoel Sports / Gracie Barra NL, Holland

MMA 3x5 min -60 kg
Janne Elonen-Kulmala, Espoon Kehähait vs
Nicklas Bergman, Märsta Alliance - Sweden
Am stoked. Doing a story to the place we do not mention (no, not the tracker, the other one). Pretty much the biggest card EVA up here. With guys like Vainikainen, Valimaki, Klockars, Radev, Pocevicius, Puhakka and Vänttinen around, it should be all-around feel-good violence.
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Holy shit! I was supposed to be working during M-1 but I'm NOT and my friend who was going there, sold me his ticket because he can't go. And it's a great card!
Valimaki, Jamba, Klockars... great superfights.

I've really been into MMA lately. More than ever. I kind of lost interest when I was in the army but it all came back stronger. I've had some experience with TKD and BJJ but they're not for me... atleast TKD isn't I'll start MMA in the beginning of 2009.
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a promotion I haven't heard much of is Pancrase....who holds the titles for their 14 weight classes?
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Ummm, they've had a rough couple of years when it comes to champions. In January they changed all their weightclasses to conform with the ones in the unified rules, so they basically have all American weightclasses now.

Openweight champ: still Josh Barnett, he will be champ forever and never defend.

SHW: Got retired.

HW: Has been vacant since Assuerio Silva vacated it last year. Before that he was supposed to defend against Kestutis Arbocius, but Arbocius literally went missing before the fight. His family and team waited for him at the airport in Latvia but he no-showed and no one knew where he was. He hasn't fought since and I don't know if anyone's ever updated the MMA world on what happened to him.

LHW: Ryo Kawamura

Yuki Kondo vacated and dropped to MW. Ryo Kawamura beat up Keiichiro Yamamiya in early October to win the belt.

'MW: Izuru Takeuchi is real champ, Yuki Kondo got an interim title because he had the LHW belt when he dropped down. Don't know how they'll work that out, or if they ever will.

WW: Takuya Wada.

Weird stuff here too. First Daizo Ishige won the belt way back, then he couldn't defend, so Katsuya Inoue won an interim title, then Ishige vacated the title. This set up a match between Inoue and Satoru Kitaoka for the title in January. Inoue won, and almost immediately vacated so he could move down to LW. Then they had Wada fight Jason Palacios for the belt in March.

He's defending against Masahiro Toryu on their big December 7th show. The winner of that will then fight the winner of Tomoyoshi Iwamiya/Hiroyuki Nozawa at a later date.

LW: Katsuya Inoue vs. Koji Oishi on the Dec 7th show. Should be a ripper.

It's vacant right now because Shoji Maruyama vacated it to fight at FW. Again, more weirdness happened in late August when Oishi was supposed to fight Shinsuke Shoji for the vacant belt, only to have Shoji announce his retirement a week before the fight and pull out.

FW: Marlon Sandro. He beat Masaya Takita a few months ago to get it.

Maeda dropped the belt to move to BW and because he's been fighting in the WEC.

BW: 10. Seiya Kawaharavs. Manabu Inoue on the Dec. 7th show. First BW KOP IIRC.
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