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Old 12-27-2008, 02:05 AM   #91
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just watched the Bas'ies and I'm a little suprised that Jorge Santiago got no love....especially in the "Breakthrough" category.

Fighter of the Year - Anderson Silva
Fight of the Year - Eddie Alvarez vs. Joachim Hansen/Cung Le vs. Frank Shamrock (tie)
Knockout of the Year - Rashad Evans vs. Chuck Liddell
Breakthrough of the Year - Gerard Mousasi
Post Fight Celebration of the Year - Ryan McGivern (vs. Matt Horwich)
Tattoo of the Year - Luke Stewart
Submission of the Year - Shinya Aoki vs. Katsuhiko Nagata/Yuri Ivlev vs. Carlos Valeri (tie)

that's all I remember
as soon as UFC92 is over, we are gonna have a thread dedicated to these kind of categories.
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:16 AM   #92
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it was a nice transition from a judo throw to armbar....looked very pro-wrestling, but was effective. yes though, the modified gogoplata is head over the rest
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How is subbing a guy who is 0-8 in a show most people wont see on par with a mounted go go? What the fuck is wrong with Bas? The only thing I can think of that even comes close to Aoki who I think is the clear winner is McLovin on Burkman
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it was voted by the fans I believe....over at the junkie
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How is subbing a guy who is 0-8 in a show most people wont see on par with a mounted go go? What the fuck is wrong with Bas? The only thing I can think of that even comes close to Aoki who I think is the clear winner is McLovin on Burkman

Like I said he thinks he's a grappling expert. No disrespect to Bas, I've been a fan for years but let's be real. Learning grappling to defend kneebars and toe holds doesn't make you an expert.
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it was voted by the fans I believe....over at the junkie
There seems to be a HD Net fights slant to that place.

I'm glad to see a show focus on non-UFC events, but they need to cut a highlight deal with Zuffa.
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I'm glad to see a show focus on non-UFC events, but they need to cut a highlight deal with Zuffa.
especially when they are showing clips of the UFC fights for subs/KO's and they show nothing but a jab and then a celebration
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Like I said he thinks he's a grappling expert. No disrespect to Bas, I've been a fan for years but let's be real. Learning grappling to defend kneebars and toe holds doesn't make you an expert.
You know what pisses me off about Bas Rutten? When he was doing commentary for Pride, he busted the Gracie's balls about everything. Especially Royce when they were watching a Wanderlei Silva fight - saying, "Oh, do you think you would want to fight him? Don't you think there should be weight classes now?." And I'm pretty sure I've heard him talk shit about how Royce sais he would fight Wanderlei, but never did. But Bas did the same shit. He said he was going to fight Wanderlei. Well, I was looking through the fight finder and I don't see a fight between those to on either of their records.
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LOL Kinda in the similar vein as winning the HW title in a gift decision against a small HW wrestler, then retiring when being faced with defending against a larger wrestler, after calling out a semi-retired non-fighter in another organization...
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LOL Kinda in the similar vein as winning the HW title in a gift decision against a small HW wrestler, then retiring when being faced with defending against a larger wrestler, after calling out a semi-retired non-fighter in another organization...

There's a lot of ignorant text in that post, Bev.
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Really? You think Bas won the Randleman fight? Or that he didn't duck Couture to call out Rickson's old ass? Bas wanted Frank Shammy or Rickson, and retired when he didn't get his way.

We all bag on Randy and Tito for ducking title defenses, Bas Rutten is not exempt.
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of all the people, I'm suprised Bas didn't call out Ken. Why? Bas has never beaten Ken.
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I doubt Bas wanted any part of a prime Ken Shammy. A large, powerful wrestler with active submissions AND strikes on the ground? Ken would have subbed Bas with the quickness (again). Nope. Gotta call out a 44 year-old man.
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I think Bas would've beaten Ken if they ever faught again.

But I do agree on all the rest of the Bas bashing.
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I just caught "Inside MMA" edition that followed Dream 5....Kenny Rice was a complete asshole to Matt Hume and the US FEG President (I think that's who he was). He seemed very drunk as well....he's trying to act like Bas
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I think Bas would've beaten Ken if they ever faught again.
thats not a serious comment is it Kilroy?? Who the fuck cares??!!
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I think Bas would've beaten Ken if they ever faught again.

But I do agree on all the rest of the Bas bashing.
That would have been before the Fujita fight, so I'd probably go with Ken for a third time.


Fighter's health is tough gauge. Lots of folks accused Fedor of ducking Crocop with the hand injury thing. I can't for certain say that Bas was playing games, so I'll give him the benifit of the doubt. Would love to have seen him face Wand in Pride. That would have been a dream match.
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Really? You think Bas won the Randleman fight? Or that he didn't duck Couture to call out Rickson's old ass? Bas wanted Frank Shammy or Rickson, and retired when he didn't get his way.

Randleman won the first 5 minutes of the fight. After Randleman took the kick his gameplan changed to LnP. After that the only thing he controlled was where the fight will be and even there he was receiving more than giving. You think he should've won because he was lying on Rutten while taking elbows and punches to the head? Or because he got a few takedowns that lead to absolutely nowhere? He wasn't even the more aggressive fighter. Randleman didnít go for any submissions the whole fight, Bas did. He pretty much stopped punching Bas after 5 minutes, while Bas kept working and striking from the bottom. It was one of those close calls but there was nothing done wrong there.

What comes to Bas calling out Rickson... for what I know he's always wanted to fight Rickson and called him out several times already when he fought in Pancrase.

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just read on Bloodyelbow....CroCop plans on retiring after this year. 3 more fights for Dream and possibly 1 more [farewell] fight in the UFC
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haha. Mirko shouldn't even be allowed to watch the UFC, much less compete in it.

I'm so disappointed in him. In the HMC fight, he looked like he hadn't trained in months.
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haha. Mirko shouldn't even be allowed to watch the UFC, much less compete in it.

I'm so disappointed in him. In the HMC fight, he looked like he hadn't trained in months.
I think you have to lay off him abit. He has trained and fought the best for 15 years. He moved from an easy home in K1 into MMA and was ranked a top 5 MMA HW for a long time. That's an achievement. He went 3 rounds with Fedor and almost beat a prime Nog.

Sure he didnt do well in MMA but he had tough match-ups style -wise. Kongo is just bigger and stronger with good MT skills and Gonzaga was an unknown package. HMC was aterrible battle but Crocop wasn't but he still won.

I salute the guy. He was a pioneer and a pretty succesful one. Some of his fights are MMA highlight classics.
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Has anyone see Fabiano Vs. Curran In APEX a few years back? I keep hearing it was a controversial desicion. Can someone spread some light on this fight?

NOTE: I don't want Cell's biased opinion.
I was there.

I don't remember anything.

Cause I was drunk.
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MTX Fight Night 1/9/09

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JR Schumacher (4-1) vs. Jesse Forbes (7-3)
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Brez is there tonight.....I don't think there is a thread for this show
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are we still forgetting that Kongo's knee's to CroCop's nuts was the beginning of his demise in the UFC?
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Ok........no one cares about Jesse Forbes at MTX tonight, I get it, I get it.
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to be honest? not really. But I was impressed by him when he got the shit kicked out of him and bloodied, but came back to win. Saw the fight on HDNet, forgot against who
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to be honest? not really. But I was impressed by him when he got the shit kicked out of him and bloodied, but came back to win. Saw the fight on HDNet, forgot against who
Was it the Josh Haynes fight?


Also, Jamie Varner is commentating...wonder how that's going.
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